RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 6:16 am
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 6:33 am by The Grand Nudger.)
It wasn't so much that he lacked smooth moves as that he only had the one move...and it was to be a total creep. 
I agree with you, on the above..I think that some people genuinely don't see themselves as engaging in that..though, and while I suspect that this is part of the larger problem..I doubt you'll make any headway on that. As a peace offering, I've proposed that we could imagine the worst..if we wanted to..about the girl - but that doesn't change ansaris role. I've also suggested that..if we really wanted to consider this issue deeply, the notion that she just wasn't assertive enough, and that this somehow meaningfully shifts a portion of the responsibility to her - and causes us to consider or modify aziz' desert, in this..... is going to end up being sketchy...at best.
We're allowed to posit that a person did not commit a rape..but only escaped that classification on a technicality. Reasonable limits of the law and all that. That may not make them a rapist...but it makes them the conceptual and social equivalent of a rapist in a meaningful way. Their means of force or coercion simply being subtle enough (or bumbling enough) for us to let them take a mulligan on that one bad night.

I agree with you, on the above..I think that some people genuinely don't see themselves as engaging in that..though, and while I suspect that this is part of the larger problem..I doubt you'll make any headway on that. As a peace offering, I've proposed that we could imagine the worst..if we wanted to..about the girl - but that doesn't change ansaris role. I've also suggested that..if we really wanted to consider this issue deeply, the notion that she just wasn't assertive enough, and that this somehow meaningfully shifts a portion of the responsibility to her - and causes us to consider or modify aziz' desert, in this..... is going to end up being sketchy...at best.
We're allowed to posit that a person did not commit a rape..but only escaped that classification on a technicality. Reasonable limits of the law and all that. That may not make them a rapist...but it makes them the conceptual and social equivalent of a rapist in a meaningful way. Their means of force or coercion simply being subtle enough (or bumbling enough) for us to let them take a mulligan on that one bad night.
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