Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist

[The Grand Nudger]

I think that people who are having trouble understanding nonverbal sexual cues should probably abstain from attempting to have sex.

I'm sure you're not advocating breeding out people with (eg) Asperger's from the population, and that I'm reading more into your textual cues than you intended.

Nah, but I do think it would be prudent for people with any type of disorder or syndrome that could conceivably land them in the position of being credibly accused of rape..or even next level creepiness, and them completely unaware of why or how that occurred to be very wary and careful of sexual advances.  We convict people on the spectrum of this..that, and the other of sex offense with some regularity....for better or for worse.

The abstaining from sex bit was more specifically tailored to any serious assumption that a person really couldn't figure it out at all.  Black box.   "Having trouble" was thinly veiled facetiousness.  If aspergers, per your example..somehow makes a person pull a full ansari...then a person with aspergers needs to be made aware of that, aware of themselves....for their own well being just as much as anyone else's.  If it's something more serious..and they can't be made aware of a potential for compromising situations in intimacy..say downs +..then I think it's a big..big fuckin leap to go looking for places to put ones pecker (or peckers to put in ones place).  Basically walking a minefield. It's complicated enough for people without cognitive or perceptual impairments. If nothings clicking, just nothing..throwing in the towel and erring on the side of caution has to be seriously considered. An uncontroversial opinion...I assume.

Essentially, if the narrative we've been considering seems like a person would need consensual ESP to know that something was awry..then that person needs to lay off the sex. They're not there yet. I mentioned earlier in thread that I was sure he thought he was being puckish and sexy...but I'm just as certain that he knows he's a pushy creeper who wears women down, because that takes effort and commitment...like running a gazelle to death...both of which he displayed, with gusto, lol.

Puts his "I thought it was going well" notpology into it's normative context. It was gong well, it worked..like it does...and one could safely assume that he thought she was playing hard to get and that he was doing a good job of chasey chasey - but consider the subtext of each of these statements. This is assuming the best of him and the worst of her. From there it's a road to increasing disingenuity. Where he knows he's a creeper..like I know he's a creeper...but thinks that..for whatever reason..as long as the girl doesn't say no or doesn't say no loudly enough..that's still in field. That some amount of coercion like fatiguing or panic reciprocity plays are okay. That silence is consent. That if she blows you, it can't be a violation. That's feely teenager shit...and we only give them a pass on it (when we do) on account of their age and inexperience - and still a massive disappointment to say the least.

Mostly, I think that's what the howler monkeys are feeling. Massive disappointment. I think that we're all ready to see the back end of the entertainment rape parade. It's all been shitty but this story is a different kind of shitty. Aziz Ansari, feminist ally...or Aziz Ansari, deviant claw crane enthusiast?