RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 17, 2018 at 1:55 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2018 at 1:59 pm by LadyForCamus.)
(January 17, 2018 at 12:48 pm)Khemikal Wrote: To be clear, they're being labeled as such for creepy predatory behavior? It would be preturnatural to pick up every cue..positive or negative. It stretches my ability to believe a person when they say they could see absolutely -no- signs of a negative, though...when the events are what we have described to us....and in this case..she seems to recall giving repeated verbal cues in addition to the "non-verbal feelings potentially at play" which..in her case..sounded rather more like in effect, than potentially at play. If I had a night like that, with some girl mumbling that we were all the same and trying to halt the penis party every here and there...I'd have been -reaching- for a notarized consent form with her picture ID embossed and signed in her own blood. To me, the writing was on the wall. If he didn't notice it at all, but doesnt deny her version of events..and that's his suspisciously lawyerly claim.....then he might actually be a danger to himself or others as a genuinely oblivious sexual predator.
I think it's more likely that he's a garden variety creep...and at least to some extent he knows that. That he did notice her objections..and he felt that he overcame them in the pursuit fantasy he was obviously playing at.
Just to clarify, my questions and comments to you were in a broad sense about how our society deals with these issues, not specifically about this particular scenario with Ansari. I just wonder if men could benefit from a little education sometimes.
Its like, I hear about male students on college campuses being educated about what is and isn’t consent in an attempt to reduce campus sexual assaults, and my knee-jerk reaction is to think, “why the hell do 19 and 20 year old guys need clarification on what is or isn’t consent?!” And, then accounts like surface, and I wonder if it’s more necessary than I think.
Quote:Say, look what happens when we engage in open dialogue on a subject instead of letting the conversation get shut down by blanket accusations of victim blaming? 😏
Quote:Meh, lol.
On the reas, though, my open dialogue on this one is that the difference between what ansari did and rape is one of degree, not category - off on a technicality.
Meh...lol. 😛 I am of the opinion that that determination is a presumptuous one. I mean, how can we say for sure he was intentionally trying to prey on her? Or, intentionally ignoring her cues? She can’t even say for sure.
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Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.