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Some countries literally are shitholes
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RE: Some countries literally are shitholes
(January 19, 2018 at 7:18 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think something has been missed (or at least not talked about enough) in this entire kerfuffle. 

The issue isn't that Trump used the word 'shithole' to describe the countries in question.  The issue isn't even whether some or all of these countries qualify as shitholes.  The issue as I see it can be split into two parts: Trump's ignorance and Trump's racism.

Ignorance:  Yet again, Trump doesn't seem to grasp what his new job, and even his country, is supposed to be about.  For the best part of two centuries, you lot have held yourselves out as a beacon of hope, opportunity and freedom to people from other countries, people that are having a harder go of it than any of us can probably imagine.  People from Haiti want to go to the US because of how they are forced to live - people from Norway are significantly less motivated to do so.  Sick, starving, oppressed people probably dream of a chance to make it to the US for a shot at a better life.  And they dream that because of what they've been told.  'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free' isn't just a few lines on that statue - it is the implicit promise that the US has offered for generations.  Trump lack of empathy for people who weren't born with a silver spoon in their mouths is bad enough, but it is even worse, even more demeaning, even more frightening is that he lacks a basic grasp of America's history and image that has made your country a goal for the world's most unfortunate.

Racism:  'Why can't we get more people from places like Norway?'  All he knows about Norwegians is that they tend to be tall, blonde and blue-eyed.  He didn't ask, 'Why can't we get more engineers and scientists?' or 'Why can't we get more people with financial degrees?'.  He wants more people from countries with demographics that are overwhelmingly white.  Forget about a potential immigrant's education, work ethic, criminal history - all that matters to Trump is that they have the proper melanin deficiency.

Ignorant, racist, heartless, cruel and cowardly.  Good luck with him, America.

Boru
You made some excellent observations regarding Trump.  However, those observations can also be applied to a large segment of the population from coast to coast and from border to border.  Trump is a Jim Crow baby.  His daddy was a member of the KKK.  One of the KKK's political goals was to have control who became President and they always wanted to have one of their guys in the office.  So now they do even if Trump himself isn't an active KKK member.  

It also pays to remember that America has the very best propaganda in the world.  We can make a sandwich out of shit and convince you that you're eating a tasty steak sandwich.  We've been doing that for the past 242 years.

Every social, political, and financial issue in America is based upon desire to restrict black Americans' access.  This is the main objective even if other segments are also negatively affected.  It's been that way since 1620.  There are tens of millions of examples that can be cited to prove that.  The current dust-up over immigration and DACA is just the latest example of a shit sandwich being sold as a tasty steak sandwich.  Trump is a racist but he isn't the only one.  Congress, State and local governments, and the courts are packed with racists and they are not doing the country any good with their agenda.  There's no steak in the restaurant.
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Some countries literally are shitholes - by John V - January 19, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by LadyForCamus - January 19, 2018 at 1:32 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by brewer - January 19, 2018 at 2:22 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 19, 2018 at 3:13 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Minimalist - January 19, 2018 at 3:23 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 3:34 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Aegon - January 19, 2018 at 3:37 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by henryp - January 19, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 19, 2018 at 5:10 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Mr.wizard - January 20, 2018 at 1:10 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Huggy Bear - January 20, 2018 at 8:39 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by CapnAwesome - January 20, 2018 at 2:32 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 19, 2018 at 5:25 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 5:29 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Pat Mustard - January 20, 2018 at 6:11 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Catholic_Lady - January 20, 2018 at 12:35 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 5:25 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by henryp - January 19, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 19, 2018 at 11:17 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by John V - January 20, 2018 at 7:53 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 7:54 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 4:43 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 7:21 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by henryp - January 19, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by CapnAwesome - January 20, 2018 at 2:38 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by John V - January 20, 2018 at 7:49 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 7:51 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by WinterHold - January 19, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Antares - January 19, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by vorlon13 - January 19, 2018 at 9:32 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by vorlon13 - January 19, 2018 at 9:34 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 19, 2018 at 9:37 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Seraphina - January 19, 2018 at 11:26 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 19, 2018 at 11:37 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Rev. Rye - January 19, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by LadyForCamus - January 20, 2018 at 12:32 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by dyresand - January 20, 2018 at 2:25 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 20, 2018 at 2:34 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 20, 2018 at 2:48 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Haipule - January 20, 2018 at 3:00 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by henryp - January 20, 2018 at 10:29 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 10:57 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Huggy Bear - January 20, 2018 at 8:29 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 8:39 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by LadyForCamus - January 21, 2018 at 1:40 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Fireball - January 20, 2018 at 11:10 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 21, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 21, 2018 at 5:02 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by FFaith - January 20, 2018 at 2:20 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 2:26 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by FFaith - January 20, 2018 at 2:46 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 3:35 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by FFaith - January 20, 2018 at 5:10 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by polymath257 - January 20, 2018 at 2:38 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 20, 2018 at 3:21 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by polymath257 - January 20, 2018 at 5:30 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Wyrd of Gawd - January 20, 2018 at 10:06 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Aegon - January 20, 2018 at 2:47 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by henryp - January 20, 2018 at 5:18 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 20, 2018 at 4:23 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 4:36 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 20, 2018 at 4:40 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 20, 2018 at 4:46 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 20, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 20, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by henryp - January 20, 2018 at 8:24 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 20, 2018 at 8:51 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Court Jester - January 20, 2018 at 11:24 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Anomalocaris - January 20, 2018 at 11:35 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 21, 2018 at 1:07 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by John V - January 21, 2018 at 7:11 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Huggy Bear - January 21, 2018 at 9:11 am
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 21, 2018 at 1:05 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by John V - January 21, 2018 at 3:32 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Amarok - January 21, 2018 at 3:38 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Mister Agenda - January 22, 2018 at 12:10 pm
RE: Some countries literally are shitholes - by Brian37 - January 22, 2018 at 3:04 pm

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