RE: Aziz Ansari Doesn't Pick Up On "Non-Verbal Cues" and Gets Treated Like A Rapist
January 22, 2018 at 3:56 am
(This post was last modified: February 1, 2018 at 6:34 pm by Losty.)
(January 22, 2018 at 2:38 am)Joods Wrote: Wow Thump, just wow. First of all - I NEVER said she didn't report it. I questioned WHY she would go to a reporter first. Yet you still refuse to read anything that's actually there. But as usual - take your cues from your girl and keep misrepresenting what really was said.
Fact is, you've argued through this thread that her not reporting it to the police undermines her claim. Here, let's read your own words, as you wrote them [all emphases were added by me -- Thump]:
(January 17, 2018 at 10:19 pm)Joods Wrote: I compel anyone to find anything that would indicate that he sexually assaulted her, under the legal definition as defined by New York State Statutes and I will gladly stand corrected.
But this guy hasn't been charged with anything, she hasn't filed charges, he seemed genuinely remorse and tried to consider her feelings by showing some empathy the very next day. None of us were there and we weren't privy to the conversation that took place. So until we see that she moves forward with pressing charges, then I think I can safely say that she wasn't sexually assaulted but perhaps she feels jilted because he's famous, the little bit of contact they did have was awkward and she's mad that it wasn't any better. It makes no sense to accuse someone of sexual assault if the first place you go to is a reporter instead of the police or even a rape crisis center. Most victims of this type of crime don't want their name plastered in papers because of the type of crime. I know I sure as hell didn't want my name out there.
(January 21, 2018 at 2:44 pm)Joods Wrote: Good for you. Did you want a pat on the back for that? A cookie maybe? Thena? Come deal with your man. Stroke his ego. Clearly he needs it.
lol, you hoped no one would notice your refusal to engage the point being made.
I quoted your words explaining why a woman might not file a police report. Have you changed your mind about those words? Do you have something else in mind? Come now, come clear -- you've laid out good reasons why a woman might not file a report.
(January 21, 2018 at 5:28 pm)Joods Wrote: The purpose of forums is to discuss things.
Quote:Oddly enough, you didn't say a fucking word when Shell told her to shut up. Where was your outrage then?
If you can't see where my outrage is - you are stupid. I'm not going to defend your girl when she was accusing me of being a victim blamer. Both of you can fuck off.
I guess, then, that you're not really into discussing things if someone disagrees. Typical remora.
(January 22, 2018 at 2:38 am)Joods Wrote: Being raped is NOTHING to take pride in. I never said his behavior was acceptable. Matter of fact, in a previous post, I stated that BOTH of them are responsible adults. I clearly outlined what the BOTH could have done to prevent anything from happening. As far as legality - I am not going to sit here and continue repeating what you obviously refuse to read correctly.
It's amazing how idiotic some people can be sometimes. There are at least two or three individuals in this thread who have chosen to sit in harsh judgment of those who feel like Grace wasn't a victim of any sort of SA. Just because we don't agree with you or your girl or Grace or anyone else who thinks the way you do - doesn't make us bad people. It doesn't make us obnoxious. It doesn't make us unsympathetic or any other adjective you want to throw at us.
It makes us logically want to seek out more information before casting judgment on a guy because a woman chose to go to a reporter and tell a story for which there are no records of her filing a report with the police. And maybe she did. But we don't know that. There is no evidence that she was threatened. There is no evidence that she was held against her will. She admitted to being able to leave the house of her own free will. And she could clearly do so at any time. That's not placing blame on her. That is discussing what her options were and what she could have done. Learn the fucking difference.
Again with the "she didn't call the police" thing. Of course she didn't. And clearly, because she didn't, you don't feel she was a victim of sexual assault -- as you yourself just wrote. It has nothing to do with "my girl", who you keep trying to drag into this as if it's a point in your favor. This is just you trying to demean my opinion by chalking it down to me being in love. Stupid.
When you're willing to address my point -- namely, that you, who were so grievously hurt by having your own assault demeaned because you didn't report it, turn around and use that same fact to demean another woman's report -- well, then perhaps we can talk. You need to explain your change of heart, why you not filing a report was right, but Grace not filing one is damning.
If you don't want to do that, fine, no sweat. But so long as you continue to gloss that over, I'm going to shrug at your fulminations. I really don't care about you and your opinion of me is none of my business.
(January 22, 2018 at 2:40 am)Shell B Wrote: Thump, I’ve said it before, and I’ve got limited patience: I’m not going to even try to talk to you, ever. That’s going to make it really easy to see that the shitposts you direct at me are flaming. You should have nothing to say to me, so keep it civil and I’ll just ignore you, shitcan it and we can ignore each other or keep it up and I’ll just report it.
I don't give a fuck about your patience. If you don't like a post of mine, report it and let the Staff decide whether or not I'm afoul the rules.
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