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Marriage
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RE: Marriage
(May 13, 2009 at 6:54 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: I like what you say Evie. I think your twisting the term 'commitment' to mean something it isn't. You're viewing it as something negative and unwanted. Sure, the pieve of paper is meaningless. A Commitment is what love is all about. Love without commitment isn't love I'd suggest.

I agree, well mostly ... the piece of paper is [empirically] meaningless, as is the ring and the ceremony but they are symbols of a promise made (of the love) between two people and therefore acquire meaning because of it. There is no way that I can definitively claim that the love between a married couple is greater than that between an unmarried couple living together but I'd suggest that having made the commitment, having agreed to be legally bonded, you elevate that relationship in some undefinable manner. It's about love as you say, it is (or should be IMO) about promising to try if that love fails or falters, it is (again or should be) about striving for something better together than can be achieved being on one's own and at the risk of invoking the NTS there are some who can't appreciate that unless they actually make (and fully buy into) that commitment.

Can you love without commitment? I'm not sure ... I suppose there might be some twisted version of "love" that lacks it but is that truly love? I'm not even sure I really know what love is ... I mean I do, at least I think I do, but I'd find it very hard to define (and end up with a definition that works for everyone).

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Marriage - by Giff - April 5, 2009 at 4:47 am
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - April 5, 2009 at 4:50 am
RE: Marriage - by athoughtfulman - April 5, 2009 at 9:02 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - April 5, 2009 at 11:44 am
RE: Marriage - by Tiberius - April 5, 2009 at 11:51 am
RE: Marriage - by bozo - April 5, 2009 at 5:48 pm
RE: Marriage - by Rockthatpiano06 - April 6, 2009 at 12:18 am
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 7:53 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - April 6, 2009 at 2:39 am
RE: Marriage - by Overmars - April 6, 2009 at 5:52 pm
RE: Marriage - by Meatball - April 6, 2009 at 6:58 pm
RE: Marriage - by Overmars - April 7, 2009 at 7:12 am
RE: Marriage - by padraic - April 26, 2009 at 11:11 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2009 at 5:16 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - April 26, 2009 at 5:23 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - April 26, 2009 at 5:48 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - April 26, 2009 at 10:11 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - April 26, 2009 at 2:19 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 10, 2009 at 11:34 am
RE: Marriage - by g-mark - May 10, 2009 at 11:23 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:02 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:08 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:14 am
RE: Marriage - by g-mark - May 11, 2009 at 8:08 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:20 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:20 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:27 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 12, 2009 at 10:57 am
RE: Marriage - by Sam - May 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 12, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 4:52 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 4:59 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 13, 2009 at 4:23 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 12:56 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:01 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 6:06 pm
RE: Marriage - by LukeMC - May 13, 2009 at 6:15 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 6:28 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:54 pm
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 5:24 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 6:35 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 7:26 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 3:49 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 6:49 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 7:24 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 9:11 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 9:26 am
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 14, 2009 at 12:02 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 3:19 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 3:20 pm
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 7:21 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 3:18 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 3:26 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 15, 2009 at 3:31 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 3:35 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 3:54 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 4:21 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 15, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 6:48 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 15, 2009 at 5:03 pm
RE: Marriage - by padraic - May 16, 2009 at 9:00 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 15, 2009 at 5:28 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2009 at 2:40 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2009 at 7:13 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 8:58 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 9:34 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 16, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 18, 2009 at 10:26 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 18, 2009 at 10:38 am
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 18, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 18, 2009 at 11:13 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 19, 2009 at 3:39 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 19, 2009 at 6:43 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 20, 2009 at 5:45 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 22, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 10:04 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 22, 2009 at 10:08 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 10:28 am
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - May 22, 2009 at 12:25 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 1:13 pm
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - May 22, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 1:51 pm
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - May 22, 2009 at 1:56 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RE: Marriage - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 8:58 pm
RE: Marriage - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 11:37 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 11:57 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 23, 2009 at 4:09 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 23, 2009 at 8:49 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 24, 2009 at 6:51 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 24, 2009 at 7:47 am
RE: Marriage - by SilentDon - May 25, 2009 at 4:20 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2009 at 10:13 am
RE: Marriage - by SilentDon - May 25, 2009 at 9:05 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2009 at 10:58 pm
RE: Marriage - by SilentDon - May 26, 2009 at 3:12 am
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - May 26, 2009 at 4:33 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 26, 2009 at 8:04 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 26, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 27, 2009 at 10:08 am

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