(August 26, 2011 at 3:57 pm)salty Wrote: lol, the heavy indoctrination actually comes from my own study. i simply listened as a skeptic and also the term "monkey" is a racial slur, I was really convinced that we evolved, especially since no one could show me evolution in action. But the Jews were still around.
(August 26, 2011 at 3:54 pm)Darwinian Wrote:(August 26, 2011 at 3:34 pm)salty Wrote: I loved my youth pastor, but my faith did not die when he left because it was based on the person of Jesus as described in the Bible.
But surely the character of Jesus as described in the Bible is a work of fiction, as I'm sure any decent and impartial Biblical scholar will tell you..
Consider this..
Whoa, that is a lot to consider, thank you. I didn't realize there were so many people with such a similar story as Jesus, therefore I'll have to take a look at everything you've listed. I should ask William Craig about these people you've mentioned! I wanted to add this question to you: What ministry did Horus, Attis, Mithra, & Dionysus have? What did they teach, do you know the names of the religions connected to them? I know what's connected to Zorastor, Jesus & Krishna.
Well, I won't go into the rest of them as Horus, Attis, and Dionysus were part of various pantheons, and basically everyone in their culture were "their followers" and "their ministry".
Mithras though, did also have apostles, ministry, congregations. They taught "love one another" and called each other "Brother" and "Sister". They were baptized into their congregations. They preached, healed the sick, helped the poor and downtrodden. You have thought they'd have gotten along well with Christians.... but no, the two groups HATED each other! The Roman government and the priests of the typical pantheon gods were more sympathetic to both groups than they were to each other. Why? The Christians thought Mithrism as a "cheap copy" of Christianity, and Mithrists thought Christianity was a "cheap copy" of Mithrism.
This debate has not ended. From a Christian angle, see http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/se...google.com
How did this happen when Mithras is more than 1000 years older than Jesus? That's simple: The devil imitated Jesus' works in advance, according to St. Anslem. Imitated things in advance???? Does the devil, or Mithras, or the Persians somehow have knowledge of the future? Jesus says that "the Father alone" knows the future!
Yet another shining example of Christian illogic along with them not listening to Jesus' words when it suits them. Also, they were not "known by their love" in how they treated the followers of Mithras!
Both were low-cost mystery cults within Rome.
