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Marriage
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RE: Marriage
(May 14, 2009 at 5:24 am)Kyuuketsuki Wrote: Can you love without commitment? I'm not sure ... I suppose there might be some twisted version of "love" that lacks it but is that truly love? I'm not even sure I really know what love is ... I mean I do, at least I think I do, but I'd find it very hard to define (and end up with a definition that works for everyone).

Kyu

Well I think the commitment is 'twisted' (as you put it) or unworthy...because it's like putting some icing on cake when the cake is really nice in itself to me and the icing is way too sweet and 'sickly' (as at least us brits put it?).

If you love someone...shouldn't that be enough? If you really do why would you have to 'make a commitment' as if you're scared of losing each other?

I do NOT think love is about attachment I think people will naturally be attached as in stay together if they truly love each other...I think love is about 'letting go' and not 'holding on'.

I don' t think you need to TRY and attach yourself by DELIBERATELY making a 'commitment' - surely if you really love each other...you can just love each other...

I don't understand how you say that you don't see how their can be 'true' love without 'commitment'?

If you love each other you love each other. If you genuinely love each other then isn't that enough and won't it last?

When it comes down to it aren't all the 'promises' superficial?

Perhaps people who really love each other are more likely TO make promises because that's often how love is expressed BUT....if they can love each other and show their love WITHOUT manufacturing some 'promise' then surely that shows greater strength?

Because people can promise and get married and make a commitment and REALLY love each other genuinely and STILL end up breaking up and getting divorce...

I just mean...at the end of the day isn't how two people actually care about each other that matters and not deliberately set up promises and things such as 'commitment' and 'marriage'.

When it comes down to it isn't it really about how much people love each other and...care FOR and ABOUT each other? Isn't the rest just unnecessary icing on the cake that you wouldn't really need unless you are scared of losing each other or something like that?

And I think fear of losing each other is attachment and 'holding on' as I have said. I think love isn't really about being scared of losing each other (although people who DO love each other can't help feeling that way sometimes of course)...it's the GOOD feelings they feel about each other and no matter what happens they'll always care about each other, with or without each other.

It's more about feeling compassion for each other (Love) than needing each other ('commitment') for me and IMO...

Well that's how I feel and how I see it...I guess we just share different view points...I know what love is for absolute certain though Smile

Perhaps it's just a different interpretation of the same thing...perhaps we show/express it in different ways...perhaps both. I dunno.

EvF
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Messages In This Thread
Marriage - by Giff - April 5, 2009 at 4:47 am
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - April 5, 2009 at 4:50 am
RE: Marriage - by athoughtfulman - April 5, 2009 at 9:02 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - April 5, 2009 at 11:44 am
RE: Marriage - by Tiberius - April 5, 2009 at 11:51 am
RE: Marriage - by bozo - April 5, 2009 at 5:48 pm
RE: Marriage - by Rockthatpiano06 - April 6, 2009 at 12:18 am
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - April 6, 2009 at 7:53 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - April 6, 2009 at 2:39 am
RE: Marriage - by Overmars - April 6, 2009 at 5:52 pm
RE: Marriage - by Meatball - April 6, 2009 at 6:58 pm
RE: Marriage - by Overmars - April 7, 2009 at 7:12 am
RE: Marriage - by padraic - April 26, 2009 at 11:11 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2009 at 5:16 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - April 26, 2009 at 5:23 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - April 26, 2009 at 5:48 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - April 26, 2009 at 10:11 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - April 26, 2009 at 2:19 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - April 26, 2009 at 2:44 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 10, 2009 at 11:34 am
RE: Marriage - by g-mark - May 10, 2009 at 11:23 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:02 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:08 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:14 am
RE: Marriage - by g-mark - May 11, 2009 at 8:08 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:20 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 11, 2009 at 8:20 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2009 at 8:27 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 12, 2009 at 10:57 am
RE: Marriage - by Sam - May 12, 2009 at 1:35 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 12, 2009 at 2:18 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 12, 2009 at 4:52 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 12, 2009 at 4:59 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 13, 2009 at 4:23 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 12:56 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:01 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 6:06 pm
RE: Marriage - by LukeMC - May 13, 2009 at 6:15 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 6:28 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 13, 2009 at 6:54 pm
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 5:24 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 6:35 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 13, 2009 at 7:26 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 14, 2009 at 3:49 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 6:49 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 7:24 am
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 9:11 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 9:26 am
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 14, 2009 at 12:02 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 1:40 pm
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 3:19 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 14, 2009 at 3:20 pm
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 14, 2009 at 3:30 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 14, 2009 at 7:21 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 3:18 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 3:26 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 15, 2009 at 3:31 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 3:35 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 3:54 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 4:21 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 15, 2009 at 4:18 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 4:54 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 15, 2009 at 6:48 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 15, 2009 at 5:03 pm
RE: Marriage - by padraic - May 16, 2009 at 9:00 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 15, 2009 at 5:13 pm
RE: Marriage - by Kyuuketsuki - May 15, 2009 at 5:28 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2009 at 2:40 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 4:17 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 16, 2009 at 7:13 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 8:58 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 17, 2009 at 6:26 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 17, 2009 at 9:34 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 16, 2009 at 10:55 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 16, 2009 at 9:09 pm
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 18, 2009 at 10:26 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 18, 2009 at 10:38 am
RE: Marriage - by chatpilot - May 18, 2009 at 1:04 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 18, 2009 at 11:13 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 19, 2009 at 3:39 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 19, 2009 at 6:43 pm
RE: Marriage - by fr0d0 - May 20, 2009 at 5:45 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 22, 2009 at 8:25 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 10:04 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 22, 2009 at 10:08 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 10:28 am
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - May 22, 2009 at 12:25 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 1:13 pm
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - May 22, 2009 at 1:34 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 1:51 pm
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - May 22, 2009 at 1:56 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 2:43 pm
RE: Marriage - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 8:33 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 8:58 pm
RE: Marriage - by Violet - May 22, 2009 at 11:37 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 22, 2009 at 11:57 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 23, 2009 at 4:09 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 23, 2009 at 8:49 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 24, 2009 at 6:51 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 24, 2009 at 7:47 am
RE: Marriage - by SilentDon - May 25, 2009 at 4:20 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2009 at 10:13 am
RE: Marriage - by SilentDon - May 25, 2009 at 9:05 pm
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 25, 2009 at 10:58 pm
RE: Marriage - by SilentDon - May 26, 2009 at 3:12 am
RE: Marriage - by leo-rcc - May 26, 2009 at 4:33 am
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 26, 2009 at 8:04 am
RE: Marriage - by Edwardo Piet - May 26, 2009 at 2:37 pm
RE: Marriage - by Giff - May 27, 2009 at 10:08 am

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