RE: God does not determine right and wrong
January 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
(This post was last modified: January 29, 2018 at 1:14 pm by The Industrial Atheist.)
(January 29, 2018 at 11:37 am)Chad32 Wrote:(January 29, 2018 at 7:44 am)Banned Wrote: Why should an all powerful God who is loving, get a kick out of making you a robot?
You are entitled to make whatever judgments about God.
But how would you like me misrepresent you without further knowledge of who you are?
Let's say someone is considered to be a criminal in prison, a corrupt court could have placed them there with all the evidence against them, and no one, not even their own family believes they are innocent.
Innocent until proven guilty applies to God.
He's not loving. Hence why he wants you to obey every word he says, and claims you're worthy of being completely abandoned or set on fire for eternity when you don't.
All the information we have about this god comes from the bible. Everything else has to be taken on faith. So there isn't really further knowledge we can take. If it paints him in a bad way, then he has failed. He even admits his plan isn't going to work very well when he says the road to hell is broad, and the road to heaven is narrow, instead of being the other way around.
Why should it apply to god, when he doesn't apply it to us? Humans go to hell by default. We're expected to seek him out, and get "saved" from the punishment he intends for us if we don't. Innocent until proven guilty is our idea, because we've grown past this bible god.
(January 29, 2018 at 9:24 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: It's not like Yaweh is an expert on everything, including psychology, or anything.
He can count the hairs on your head, but seems to think you're capable of controlling your thoughts when it's proven you can't. Thou shalt not covet is meaningless.
Thought crimes are a lot of what keeps it going. Even if you can obey all the rules concerning actions, eek you had impure thought! Now you have to come crawling to god for forgiveness, how wretched is someone who for nay time even 45 seconds wants what someone else has or or for a brief time has sexual thoughts about someone they aren't married to.
(January 29, 2018 at 10:09 am)vorlon13 Wrote:(January 29, 2018 at 9:24 am)Industrial Lad Wrote: It's not like Yaweh is an expert on everything, including psychology, or anything.
Yeah, he's not real good with iron either, despite creating literally mega-mega-mega tons of the stuff when he invoked all of creation. His skill set has clearly declined.
He should have spoken the AICD (Anti Iron Chariot Device) into existence.
