Man Uses $1m Win To Finally Visit Doctor, Gets Terminal Cancer Diagnosis, Dies

[John V]

This is a discussion forum, so you have absolutely no way of knowing whether people here do more than just talk about healthcare reform.

I know people in general tend to bitch about big problems but do nothing about them, so it's reasonable to think that's what's going on here.

Talking helps work out the problems and guide people on how to vote/help in other ways. Besides, you bitch about plenty on here, and I sincerely doubt you've done shit to back up your right-wing lip service.

LMAO - right-wing lip service? I'm the guy defending Obamacare. I've said repeatedly I don't oppose single payer.

We do expect people to take a certain amount of personal responsibility for their healthcare.

You might, but I think there are some here who feel that health care is fully the government's problem.

As for the dems having a chance to fix it. That's bullshit. When the time came to fix it, they were blocked by Republicans. Then, the ultimate Rep. douchebag made his way into office on the promise of single payer and then screwed the pooch hard for both Republicans and Democrats.

You misunderstand. I don't mean fix Obamacare, I mean fix health care. Obamacare was the attempt at the fix. I'm saying that instead of Obamacare they could have gone to single payer, but didn't. They had the white house, both houses, and IIRC a mandate.

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Oddly, alpha, I was waiting for you to suggest one.

I'm not the one criticizing the current system, so yes - it's very odd that you would be waiting for me to suggest a solution.

Anyone can offer slings and arrows.  If you are only bringing criticism, you're indistinguishable from noise.

I'm the one defending ACA. My opponents are criticizing it. Amazing how the partisan lens distorts what's actually going on.

I advocate universal health care paid for via general fund taxes.

And I've said multiple times that I don't oppose that.

Research bears out that developed nations with such systems achieve better results than the USA, with less per capital expenditure, and have for quite some timem  I realize that doesn't align with your ideological viewpoint,

No, it doesn't, but I'm not a political ideologue, so I'm willing to compromise.

but frankly, I don't value politics based on ideology that achieves poor results.  I vote GOP until 8 years ago.  Their ideas suck.

Are you not an ideologue, or did you just change ideology? Note that the Dems aren't pushing single payer either, and they had a chance to make it happen.

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Walmart? Fast food? Please. Let's get real here. Rob is a welder with several certifications in his field. That has been his occupation for 26 years. Why should he have to work at Walmart or in a fast food place?

To pay his bills and afford health care.

That would be taking a pay cut.

Not instead of his regular job, in addition to his regular job.

Or hell, I don't know if they have this in your area, but I used to have a paper route that paid $20K a year, and that was over 20 years ago. I'd go in at 3am and be done by 6, then I'd go to my regular job.

You clearly don't have a single clue as to what it takes to try busting your ass to raise three teens while you are still struggling to get medical care for yourself. 

I don't consider 40 hour weeks with occasional overtime to be busting ass. That's just normal.

Fast food jobs are not designed to support anyone with any sort of a living wage. But you already knew that, didn't you? I think you just want to piss on those who fall well below your own income bracket because you don't have anything of substance to add to this discussion.

And again, I'm talking extra income, not a switch in main job.

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So it's done incredible things, but for the guy in the article and thousands of others it's worthless. Is that correct?

....yes? Lol. Am I allowed to really like certain things about it and not others?

I would think that when the "others" include thousands of people dying because they can't afford care - under the Affordable Care Act - that would overshadow whatever good you see in it.