RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 15, 2018 at 9:47 am
(This post was last modified: February 15, 2018 at 9:56 am by A Theist.)
(February 15, 2018 at 4:53 am)pocaracas Wrote:(February 14, 2018 at 9:09 pm)A Theist Wrote: Sure. They could be just as much to blame as anything else for what's going on. We've created a culture of violence here through Hollywood and video games including other media sources. This goes way beyond a gun control issue when a kid can take it in his heart and mind to go out and commit murder.
There were also movies that glorified violence through guns, knives, bombs, axes, etc. which have all been used in actual killings. Don't know about the anvil thing you watched on 1000s of Looney Tune cartoons, though.
It is true that there is a culture of violence.
Magazines on guns, movies, tv series and whatnot.... all available to underage kids.
Meanwhile, showing a female nipple is immediate cause for censoring and, if such censoring fails, immediate outrage from everywhere.
Back when I was younger, a teen, there were these German tv channels that would broadcast slightly erotic movies at their 11pm (my 10pm hehe), on Fridays (and maybe Saturdays - my memory is fuzzy). They were out in the open, free channels. And the next day, in the morning, the same channels would give us kids cartoons. and then news and whatever... I don't know if they still do that... but, with the internet, there might not be a demand for those movies.
In the more conservative Portugal, they showed a program that came from Italy... Colpo grosso, with the "ragazze cin cin" (damn that brunette in red was hot!)
Anyway, my point is that there's nothing inherently wrong in showing some titties on tv... but there seems to be a problem with it.
However, showing violent movies like Rambo or Commando (you can tell I'm old skool), those are ok.
"Make love, not war" is a motto that died in the the 70's, huh?
Still, no matter how motivated one is, without easy access to weapons, this sort of shootings would never happen.
And there is easy access in the states due to "historical reasons". Well, at some point, "historical reasons" has to stop being a reason for kids to die or be put in constant danger.
Metal detectors at every school?! at every public office?! That's something that makes no sense to my european mentality. The US is not a war zone... but it sure feels like one.
It doesn't have to be that way, but it will require a massive shift in the mentality of the whole population and that requires political willpower.
How much of the 2018 budget to the "armed forces" would it take to buy back all privately owned firearms in the country?
Here's a couple of experts debating whether or not if violence and pornography can have an effect on certain people to act out on their fantasies. One says yes. The other says no.
I don't think either of these two used guns to murder their victims, if memory serves me correctly. I can still remember when these killers were making headlines. Bundy clubbed his victims to death and then had sex with their corpses until they were too decomposed and Manson ordered his devotees to commit the murders of Sharon Tate and friends. Different methods of killing from those who murdered their victims with guns, but the same intent to commit murder. Gun control advocates can argue and politicize the issue all they want but it still doesn't address why anyone would even think to murder another person, what are the motives and what are the influences, and how are they going to control all the illegal and unknown weapons that are still in the hands of criminals. What prompted this kid to murder 17 of his classmates? Would there still have been these murders without the motive and the influence?
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