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Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians?
(February 17, 2018 at 6:49 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote:
(February 17, 2018 at 2:14 am)Godscreated Wrote:



 The books of the Bible were written long before they were put together as one book and the Torah was put together long before Jesus time. The disciples preached from the Torah and the Prophets because they tell of Jesus, something I'm sure you have missed. You need to prove the bold statement (bold by me). if you can't bring these proofs including the bold about Paul then we have nothing else to talk about.

GC

WoG Wrote:Please read your favorite religious fairy tale at least once in your life.

I've read it through and studied it for many years and you know nothing about it other than what you glean from other websites.

WoG Wrote:2 Maccabees 15:38-39 (CEB) = "38 If the story was told effectively, this is what I wanted. But if it was told in a poor and mediocre fashion, this was the best I could do. 39 Just as it is harmful to drink wine or water alone while wine mixed with water is delightful and produces joy, so also may the writing of this story delight the ears of those who encounter this work.

The end."

The Maccabees are not in any of the Protestant Bibles that I know of, that is a Catholic thing they added.

WoG Wrote:Titus 1:14 (CEV) = "Don’t pay any attention to any of those senseless Jewish stories and human commands. These are made up by people who won’t obey the truth."

Titus 1: 13-14 (ESV) ...Therefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith, 14 not devoting themselves to Jewish myths and the commands of people who turn away from the truth.
This is for Christians who are listening to wrong teaching. When you use the related verse it makes sense. 

This one is for you.
Titus 1:15 (ESV) ..... but to the defiled and unbelieving, nothing is pure; but both their minds and consciences are defiled.  


WoG Wrote:And speaking of Paul and his bull shit, have any of your dead relatives paid you a visit lately?

"1 Corinthians 15:12-19 (CEV) = 12 If we preach that Christ was raised from death, how can some of you say that the dead will not be raised to life? 13 If they won’t be raised to life, Christ himself wasn’t raised to life. 14 And if Christ wasn’t raised to life, our message is worthless, and so is your faith. 15 If the dead won’t be raised to life, we have told lies about God by saying that he raised Christ to life, when he really did not.
16 So if the dead won’t be raised to life, Christ wasn’t raised to life. 17 Unless Christ was raised to life, your faith is useless, and you are still living in your sins. 18 And those people who died after putting their faith in him are completely lost. 19 If our hope in Christ is good only for this life, we are worse off than anyone else."

However you got that out of those verses just befuddles me, your understanding of scripture is completely deplorable and useless.

GC

(February 17, 2018 at 8:24 am)Jehanne Wrote: GC,

I would like to know your thoughts from the following passage from the Acts of Peter.  Do you believe it to be historical; in other words, did it actually happen, and if not, why do you believe that?

Quote:IX. As Peter spake thus with great sorrow of mind, many were added unto them that believed on the Lord. But the brethren besought Peter to join battle with Simon and not suffer him any longer to vex the people. And without delay Peter went quickly out of the synagogue (assembly) and went unto the house of Marcellus, where Simon lodged: and much people followed him. And when he came to the door, he called the porter and said to him: Go, say unto Simon: Peter because of whom thou fleddest out of Judaea waiteth for thee at the door. The porter answered and said to Peter: Sir, whether thou be Peter, I know not: but I have a command; for he had knowledge that yesterday thou didst enter into the city, and said unto me: Whether it be by day or by night, at whatsoever hour he cometh, say that I am not within. And Peter said to the young man: Thou hast well said in reporting that which he compelled thee to say. And Peter turned unto the people that followed him and said: Ye shall now see a great and marvellous wonder. And Peter seeing a great dog bound with a strong chain, went to him and loosed him, and when he was loosed the dog received a man's voice and said unto Peter: What dost thou bid me to do, thou servant of the unspeakable and living God? Peter said unto him: Go in and say unto Simon in the midst of his company: Peter saith unto thee, Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And immediately the dog ran and entered in, and rushed into the midst of them that were with Simon, and lifted up his forefeet and in a loud voice said: Thou Simon, Peter the servant of Christ who standeth at the door saith unto thee: Come forth abroad, for thy sake am I come to Rome, thou most wicked one and deceiver of simple souls. And when Simon heard it, and beheld the incredible sight, he lost the words wherewith he was deceiving them that stood by, and all of them were amazed.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/te...peter.html

 You should include at least a part of a post of mine because I usually only respond to Alerts, I just happened to read this one. First of all the Acts of Peter are not in the canonized Bible so I've never read them and would not respond to something that I haven't read fully and I respect those who put the canonized Bible together and do not doubt their work through God. I will answer this because you asked but this doesn't mean I will answer all that does not come from the Bible.

First of all I doubt Peter was ever in Rome, he was mainly in Jerusalem and the surrounding area doing work with the Jewish people. Second there is no time line established for these verses so it would be impossible to say if Peter was somewhere else when this supposedly happened. are you trying to get me to comment on the dog speaking, I believe that God did use a donkey and caused it to speak, but as for this dog I can't say the story is outside of what I accept as God's word. Why did you even bring this up it seems it has no real purpose in my view?

GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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Messages In This Thread
Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Jehanne - February 4, 2018 at 9:57 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Jehanne - February 13, 2018 at 11:50 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Godscreated - February 19, 2018 at 3:51 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Amarok - February 15, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Drich - February 7, 2018 at 10:15 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Drich - February 8, 2018 at 2:00 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Drich - February 9, 2018 at 10:22 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Jehanne - February 10, 2018 at 10:41 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Amarok - February 13, 2018 at 2:43 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by vorlon13 - February 13, 2018 at 12:00 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Jehanne - February 13, 2018 at 12:43 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Silver - February 13, 2018 at 2:10 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Silver - February 13, 2018 at 2:14 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Amarok - February 13, 2018 at 6:13 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Amarok - February 14, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Cyberman - February 14, 2018 at 11:24 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by vorlon13 - February 15, 2018 at 11:16 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Jehanne - February 15, 2018 at 12:15 pm
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Jehanne - February 19, 2018 at 11:01 am
RE: Paul's "persecution" of the early Christians? - by Cyberman - February 19, 2018 at 12:26 pm

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