High school shooting in Parkland FL

[henryp]

I think the whole gun control thing would be more compelling if so much of it wasn't disingenuous.

Well at least you're being genuine about lacking empathy for the victims of tragedy, I guess.  I'll give you that.  It makes you come across like an asshole.  But at least you're being genuine.

The likelihood of being killed in a mass shooting is irrelevant.  The fact is: This doesn't happen in other countries.  It doesn't happen in Australia.  It doesn't happen in Canada, or France.  It doesn't happen in Sweden, or Norway.  It doesn't happen in Germany.  Certainly not at the rate it does here.

Maybe you're okay with 20 some kids being murdered every now and again, as long as people keep the right to bear arms.  After all, as long as it's not your blood, what do you care?  You'll (disingenuously I might add) point to traffic accidents as if every country on earth dosen't have them at around the same rate we do.  You'll ignore the fact that people are trained in the operation of a vehicle, and must prove themselves to be able to drive them.

I'm not okay with it.  This doesn't happen in other countries.  Because they don't worship guns like this country does.  I know we'll never do anything because of people like you.  People who can look at victims as nothing but a numbers game.  "It was only TWENTY kids who died in Sandy Hook.  The chances of dying are small!"  You know what?  It's funny you mention that.  The chances of someone breaking into your home?  Yeah, that's unlikely too.  But your side will fight to the death over their right to own a killing machine so they can 'defend their home' from an intruder who's probably only interested in their television in the first place.  And of course these same people are SO worried about home safety, that they surely have the best security systems they can get, right?  Oh right, they don't.  So don't talk to me about disingenuous.  I wonder how you'd feel if your kid was one of the ones killed.  Would you then state "Oh it was only ONE Kid!"  Would you let your kid trade places with one of those, if it meant keeping the right to bear arms? 

And that's not to even mention all the irresponsible gun owners who let their children get their hands on guns, and end up killing people before they're 4 years old. 

I don't blame those kids for wanting to march against guns.  I'm sure you and the people like you hate it, because it draws attention against your cause.  You don't care that they've lost friends.  Why would you?  Your friends (namely the metallic ones) are what you care about.  Chances are you'll never have to use a gun to defend yourself.  Chances are your home will never be broken into.  But you don't care about those chances.  Just the ones that fit your narrative, and your agenda.

It definitely happens in other countries.  There was a crazy guy in Norway who killed 80 people in '11.  France just had the big mass shooting a couple years ago in Paris.  A gunman killed a bunch of people in a Mosque in Quebec, Canada in 2017.   Some kid killed a couple family members, and then shot up a school in Saskatchewan, Canada in 2016.  There was the Munich mass shooting in Germany in 2016.   Mass shooting in Sweden in Oct. 2017, although that was gang related.  I'm just googling the places you said don't have mass shootings.  I assume we're mostly talking about criminal on non-criminal mass shootings.  A lot of US shootings are gang related.  If you can find a way to take guns away from criminal organizations, I'd be for that.  But they have guns, so it'd probably be pretty dangerous.

But the bigger point is anywhere there's guns, someone's eventually going to go nuts and shoot at a bunch of random people.  

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You are right though.  I don't sweat people dying.  If you were sad every time someone died tragically, you'd be sad 100% of the time.  More than 14 kids died today in horrible unnecessary tragic ways.  But it wasn't at the same time in an exciting manner so the nation isn't mourning them.  It's arbitrary.  I have a hard time with feelings as it is, let alone arbitrary ones.  My opinion is life sucks sometimes, and you just cross your fingers it doesn't get you.  But I don't worry about my kid getting shot for the same reason I don't play the lottery.  And if it happens, it'll suck.  But you can't let your life be dictated by incredibly rare events.  

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Finally, you make the assumption I'm on the pro-gun side.  I'd prefer no guns.  But it's just not practical, and I don't get to dictate what everyone in the country has to do because of what I want.  I think alcohol should probably be illegal as well.  How many rapes/murders/assaults/etc... is alcohol responsible for.  But I'm not trying to ban that either.  People are very comfortable giving up other people's rights in America.  

Now if we came up with some practical solutions to reduce the impact that aren't shit, sign me up.  But most of the ideas are just political tricks and the hot takes of dumb people, in my opinion.

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It remains a fact wally more innocent people are killed by guns . Then  are saved by them.

Yes.  But what is your conclusion based on that fact.   
Because more people are killed by guns, than protected by guns....  What?  What comes next?