(February 20, 2018 at 6:32 am)Huggy74 Wrote:(February 20, 2018 at 5:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: Ok, you're probably referring to Isaiah 9:6-7, no? Have you ever consulted what the non-Christian Jews say about these verses? Check out this link, and then tell me where you think this Rabbi has gone wrong with their interpretation:
http://www.whatjewsbelieve.org/prooftext6is96.html
The Jews don't accept the deity of Jesus Christ either, so I don't know what point you're trying to make.
quoted from your link.
Quote:If Jesus were the 'Mighty Gd,' why would he have to call upon another as Gd in order to save him? How can Gd forsake himself? This also denies the very idea of a trinity, and shows how Jesus does not fit the description of the Isaiah 9 quotation.
(February 20, 2018 at 5:59 am)Grandizer Wrote: As for light, that's not what I asked. I'm asking where in the Bible itself does it say light is energy? People back then didn't adhere to the modern concept of energy that we do. So it seems to me like you're doing some retrofitting based on modern science.
Light IS energy, what you're doing is attempting to argue semantics...
If I refer to fire as light, does that mean it's not energy?
It's not energy according to the Bible. You're playing word games here, which is why it seems like I'm arguing semantics. Perhaps if you were to stop bullshitting, we wouldn't have to waste time arguing whether or not the Bible says life or light is energy, when clearly the Bible says nothing about the scientific physical notion of energy, and simply treats life as a spiritual thing. There's your answer.
As for Isaiah 9, so what do you think the Rabbi was wrong about with his interpretation? He seems to be saying that the Messiah was never meant to be Mighty God himself, but that it's a name attached to him in this passage. It was meant as an attachment rather than as an absolute descriptor. Similar to the whole Immanuel (God with us) thing.
