RE: High school shooting in Parkland FL
February 20, 2018 at 11:59 am
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2018 at 12:14 pm by CapnAwesome.)
(February 20, 2018 at 11:15 am)pocaracas Wrote:(February 20, 2018 at 10:57 am)wallym Wrote: https://www.thetrace.org/2015/07/gun-bac...s-failure/
To a degree, what your'e asking for is already in place. The practicality of confiscation, though, is tricky. You want to send a bunch of cops into black neighborhoods to confiscate their guns on a regular basis? I can imagine some undesirable side effects to that plan.
Confiscation can get tricky, yes.
But I can envision that, just as some may evolve into unsustainable situations like you mentioned, many people will be conscientious enough to understand the risks and will give them up, willingly.... particularly, if a certain reasonable monetary value is exchanged for them.
Most of the time, cops wouldn't even be required.... but they are the best trained to handle it.
Trying to confiscate guns in the U.S. would cause an untold amount of mass shootings. If you cared about mass shootings at all. I for one, don't think 'from my cold dead hands' is a bluff.
(February 20, 2018 at 11:57 am)pocaracas Wrote:(February 20, 2018 at 11:54 am)CapnAwesome Wrote: When 2/3 of gun related deaths are suicides, it's a hard sell to say regulating guns is going to prevent any of those.
That's why it's a nonsense statistic. What other stat groups suicides, murders and accidents together.
No guns would prevent all of the accidents, none of the suicides and some of the murders. It's only the last number that needs to be debated. So it needs to be three statistics to have any value whatsoever.
That statistic drives me crazy when people use it, because it's such obvious propaganda, that people regularly use.
Try reading some of what I wrote, instead of spewing hate towards statistics.
I'd advise to go into some of those links as well, but I understand that it can become too much.
I edited my post two seconds afterwards to acknowledge that, no reason to be a dick. It is a nonsense statistic though, or do you think gun deaths some sort of value? It doesn't tell you the murder rate of a country. I mean, I'm in favor of voluntary suicide, so in favor of some gun deaths and obviously against others. So the stat is nonsense when a cancer victim ending their own life and a murder of a child are both 'gun deaths ' I mean do some thought experiments with that stat and the murder/suicide/accident mix and you'll see that pretty quick.
Also try responding thoughtfully to my points, not being a dick to feel smug. Also I agree with a lot of your other points, which is why I didn't respond to them. Just think gun deaths is a pointless stat.