(February 21, 2018 at 1:31 pm)pocaracas Wrote:(February 21, 2018 at 12:53 pm)wallym Wrote: Trump pulling out of globalist trade deals, and imposing tariffs, and repatriating overseas capital, reducing immigration, and lowering corporate tax rates are what you're talking about, no?
You know... when you put it like that...
.From the European side, those globalist trade deals were feared due to the ease with which "deregulated" american companies would get their cheap unsafe products in the EU market. Loss of business for the US?
.Imposing tariffs on very select products (solar panels) to increase... don't know, but it does increase usage of fossil fuels, worsening the environment in the States... and the world.
.Repatriating overseas capital? The repatriation tax is designed to to incentivize US-based companies that do business overseas to bring their profits back stateside.... and what do they do with those profits abroad that they don't want to do in the states, but need an incentive?
.Reducing immigration? https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/...7-edition/: "Immigrants added an estimated $2 trillion to the U.S. GDP in 2016." You really think it's wise to lower that?
.Lowering corporate taxes is the cherry on top of the cake - the well known NOT to work trickle down economics which is also well known to fill the pockets of the few on top.
Those measures don't seem as positive now... but maybe, maybe they'll do something... wait and see, huh?
Those are disappointingly simple framings of complex issues. I'll try not to sidetrack the discussion too much.
Immigration is probably the easiest. I'm upper middle class white. For the most part, illegal immigration is not impacting my life negatively. Their kids aren't going to my school. They're not filling up my ER. They aren't committing crime in my neighborhood. They're not affecting the wages of job markets I'm involved with. The burden of all those things falls onto the poor. Their shitty schools get shittier. Their overcrowded hospitals get more over crowded. Their wages get lower.
What I get is cheaper construction costs, cheaper landscaping, and cheaper blueberries. And while I'm fine with saving a few bucks, I don't think I'm the one who needs it.
I say this as a person looking at the problem as nothing more than a puzzle to be solved. If I'm trying to help poor Americans, an easy solution is to remove unnecessary competition for the limited resources they have.
You say, of course, "How about we redistribute some wealth!?" And you're right. But who's going to do that? Everybody that runs the country is rich or trying to get rich. The Obama's weren't worth a ton going into politics, but they're worth tens of millions now. I'm sure it'll be 100's of millions shortly. Is there anything more American than getting ridiculously rich 'fighting for the poor people.'? I don't think you can change that. I think that's why Bernie's campaign was ultimately futile. The rich are going to get theirs, and there's no stopping that.