(February 24, 2018 at 9:08 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:Tizheruk Wrote:I can live with that
Because killing people is okay if they won't give up their legally-acquired property on demand? About 30-35% of American households have one or more guns, and most of them will turn over their guns peacefully rather than take on the authorities. That will only leave a few thousand little Waco scenarios. And sure, there will be some cops killed and some collateral damage, but it'll be worth once those gun owners are all disarmed or dead. It shouldn't affect you personally, because no one you personally care about owns a gun. And afterwards, America will heal right up, just like we did after the Civil War.
Sterben Wrote: I hope your right, the gun issue needs to come to an end once and for all. I see five key issues at hand here. Getting rid of Trump, deflating the military budget, gun-control, getting out of the middle east and protecting the internet from censorship. If we can focus on these five issues and put a dent in them, it will be a good start.
You also need to make an A-rating from the NRA poison for re-election. No real change on this issue is possible as long as half of congress is beholden to the NRA and doesn't see a path to re-election without them. The makeup of the elected officials in Congress has to change dramatically, and it will take more than one election to pull it off to the degree needed. A bare majority won't be enough.
Nobody wants a civil war. That is not what liberals want.
But things cant continue with "Sell more and arm everyone". If that were a cure we'd expect to see less firearm violence and deaths, not the amount we currently see.
Just saw a story in Scotland about their mass shooting that changed their laws. They interviewed A GUN SHOP OWNER, yes, they still allow firearms there. But he really represents a shop owner that if America's shop owners had the same attitude, we'd be a safer society. A GUN SHOP OWNER, values the way their laws work and their regulations because they understand that firearms are not candy.
We DONT want to become a fascist state, that is NOT what liberals want. But if anyone wants to argue that our firearm regulations are already strict enough, that is a joke.
Just the cost of injury, death and PTSD for survivors is costing tax payers. We simply cannot continue doing things the way we are doing them. I do think we can learn from our allies like New Zealand, Scotland and Australia. Nobody can claim those are fascist dictatorships.