(February 24, 2018 at 3:42 pm)A Theist Wrote:(February 24, 2018 at 3:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Don't even try to scapegoat the police or the guard. I used to work in radio, in the range of Bedford Virgina, where dozen's of D-day soldiers died. I covered the boards for that memorial and listened to the survivors. One vet who landed on the beach said many soldiers FROZE. But even they still took more of a risk than President Shithole did. Easy to say what you would do when you are not in the actual event. This is about long term bad policy that has made firearms far to easy to obtain regardless of what you think of what these individual police or the guard should have done. Your excuse will be something entirely different for the next mass shooting when the police don't run.
There was with the Oregon college shooting a vet carrying and even he said he didn't get involved.
If you want to argue first responders training, that would be a better argument. But if you are going to argue these guys were not mentally fit, then what the hell would make you think a civilian could do better whom does not have police training?
Next shooting it will be,
"It's the mentally ill"
"It's the urban gangs"
"It's the terrorists"
Fuck you.
I am sorry my free speech bothers you, and I am sorry my voting habits bother you, don't like it? TOUGH SHIT.
My redneck friend from Oklahoma grew up with guns and even he thinks the NRA is bat shit crazy.
Australia and New Zealand and Scotland HAVE NOT banned guns, but what they don't do is make them like candy and hand them out like candy. If you do not give a shit about the average of 90 firearm deaths PER DAY, there simply is no polite way to put it, you are a selfish heartless person.
You go tell that to the survivors of Parkland and Newtown.
Now despite what you STUPIDLY think, most liberals DO NOT want to ban 100% of all firearms. But we make way too many and they are way too easy to obtain.
I have no criminal record, but depression does run in my family, so if you think the mentally ill should not have them, you are fucked in my state. I could go out right now and buy one because I have no record. Now, cant have it both ways buddy, if you don't want me to have a firearm, then our laws would have to change to prevent me from getting one.
Humans have rights not objects.