Well maybe I show my love in a different way? And maybe I want to love someone who doesn't see commitment really as 'the be all and end all' yeah?
As I have said...I personally feel that if I really love someone and they really love me then that is enough.
And I personally (at least) think that 'commitment' is superficial BECAUSE - what's the point if you can leave anyway? It seems manufactured to me....
If the love is strong you can stay WITHOUT 'commitment' and if the love isn't that strong (or the strength goes) the the couple can UNcommit from the commitment anyway, and if they're married they can get a divorce regardless of how much they DID love each or and for how long.
So is it really the commitment that gives the strength if relationships can die WITH commitment and they can STAY and stay strong WITHOUT it? (because the couple just stays together naturally because Love.../is enough?)
That's how I feel about it personally anyway...
Now...I think commitment is a COMMON by-product of genuine love yes - that's how people commonly SHOW their love...so I can understand how the two of you (Kyu and fr0d0) believe love leads to commitment...
Now it may be a COMMON way to SHOW IT....but I don't think it's the commitment itself that is the Love and that matters...I think the commitment is just a common by-product of love and perhaps comes from attachment too.
I think commitment is a common way of SHOWING Love...and a common BY-PRODUCT of Love...rather than the other way around...
I think it's the love itself that really matters...and I personally find the 'commitment' superficial, I mean if you can stay together WITHOUT it...then that's awesome.
And if you can also make a 'commitment' and UNcommit anyway then I think that shows just how superficial the commitment really is. If you can just break it anyway then how's it really a commitment? (people do...regardless of 'commitment'...people can be loyal WITHOUT it and people CAN still BREAK the commitment WITH it).
And if you have good reason to break it, i.e: if you don't love each other anymore wouldn't you be RIGHT to break the commitment (excluding staying in the relationship 'just for the kids', etc)? And if you DON'T have good reason, if you still love each other and are going to stay together ANYWAY, regardless - why would you need the 'commitment'? Once again I think it would just be superficial.
This is just how I feel about it, y'know? The way I see it,
1: If the relationship is going good and you love each other then why would you even need to commit? It seems superficial and a by-product of love rather than the other way around.
2.:If the love has gone and the relationship is going bad...and you want to break up - why would you still stay committed? (excluding exceptions like staying together 'just for the kids', etc) And if you can UNcommit anyway regardless of the previous 'commitment' then I think that shows how superficial 'commitment' really is (I think it's a by-product of Love rather than the other way around, but it's also more about attachment than compassion ( Unlike love which I think is more about compassion than attachment)).
EvF
As I have said...I personally feel that if I really love someone and they really love me then that is enough.
And I personally (at least) think that 'commitment' is superficial BECAUSE - what's the point if you can leave anyway? It seems manufactured to me....
If the love is strong you can stay WITHOUT 'commitment' and if the love isn't that strong (or the strength goes) the the couple can UNcommit from the commitment anyway, and if they're married they can get a divorce regardless of how much they DID love each or and for how long.
So is it really the commitment that gives the strength if relationships can die WITH commitment and they can STAY and stay strong WITHOUT it? (because the couple just stays together naturally because Love.../is enough?)
That's how I feel about it personally anyway...
Now...I think commitment is a COMMON by-product of genuine love yes - that's how people commonly SHOW their love...so I can understand how the two of you (Kyu and fr0d0) believe love leads to commitment...
Now it may be a COMMON way to SHOW IT....but I don't think it's the commitment itself that is the Love and that matters...I think the commitment is just a common by-product of love and perhaps comes from attachment too.
I think commitment is a common way of SHOWING Love...and a common BY-PRODUCT of Love...rather than the other way around...
I think it's the love itself that really matters...and I personally find the 'commitment' superficial, I mean if you can stay together WITHOUT it...then that's awesome.
And if you can also make a 'commitment' and UNcommit anyway then I think that shows just how superficial the commitment really is. If you can just break it anyway then how's it really a commitment? (people do...regardless of 'commitment'...people can be loyal WITHOUT it and people CAN still BREAK the commitment WITH it).
And if you have good reason to break it, i.e: if you don't love each other anymore wouldn't you be RIGHT to break the commitment (excluding staying in the relationship 'just for the kids', etc)? And if you DON'T have good reason, if you still love each other and are going to stay together ANYWAY, regardless - why would you need the 'commitment'? Once again I think it would just be superficial.
This is just how I feel about it, y'know? The way I see it,
1: If the relationship is going good and you love each other then why would you even need to commit? It seems superficial and a by-product of love rather than the other way around.
2.:If the love has gone and the relationship is going bad...and you want to break up - why would you still stay committed? (excluding exceptions like staying together 'just for the kids', etc) And if you can UNcommit anyway regardless of the previous 'commitment' then I think that shows how superficial 'commitment' really is (I think it's a by-product of Love rather than the other way around, but it's also more about attachment than compassion ( Unlike love which I think is more about compassion than attachment)).
EvF
