RE: Republidertarianazi shows off his thinking skills
August 30, 2011 at 8:17 am
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2011 at 8:23 am by reverendjeremiah.)
(August 30, 2011 at 8:02 am)Tiberius Wrote: Can someone explain your "public" healthcare system out there? I'm not sure who to believe; some people say it's a step in the right direction, but other people say it's basically a law that forces everyone to purchase healthcare.
Sure. You only get public health care if you are very, very poor. The average paycheck around here is about $380 bucks after tax. The average insurance price is about $500 to $600 a month, and that is just bare minimum coverage. The healthcare law does force people to buy private health insurance, and that is one of the reasons why it is failing so badly against the lawsuits taken against it. In return for forcing everyone to pay for insurance, the insurance companies are told that they cannot deny coverage for certain things. Like the policy holder forgetting to mention he suffered from acne as a teenager (which was a popular way ins companies denied claims to make more $$$). Its a step in the right direction by telling ins. companies they cant dick us around. I personall support a single payer option (universal healthcare).
Quote:I've always seen the best way as somewhere between the two. In the UK, we pay a heck of a lot of tax just to fund the NHS, a service that some people go their entire lives without using. It isn't fair to take that service away from the people who really need it of course (e.g. poor people who have conditions they can't help), so some basic form of healthcare should exist. However, if you pay for private healthcare over public healthcare, that should be adjusted in your taxes.That is also the kicker. Healthcare can no longer be claimed on your taxes. Ultimately, the new "affordable health care" law screws the common citizen and guarentees profit to the ins. and big Pharma.
Quote:Maybe some form of "step" program, where there is a minimal amount that everyone has to pay (provided you earn enough money to be taxed), which provides you with a basic service. Then have different levels of extra care, which are provided as long as you pay the required amount in tax.
THAT would be a step in the right direction. But in the end I would not settle for anything less than 100% unviersal coverage for all proven citizens
The number one American argument against unversal healthcare..believe it or not:
"I dont want more of my tax money going to the niggers and spics!"