Philosophical zombies

[robvalue]

I don't subscribe to the idea that "robots can't be conscious". I think that any scientific definition for what it means for an entity to be conscious could apply to a robot, in theory. The only way it couldn't is to insist that it's some purely organic phenomenon. I don't know why there is a need to do that, but if you do so, then of course robots "can't be conscious"; but you haven't actually said anything.

I think it's more of an emotional reaction/argument, personally.

Emotions? What emotions? I haven't seen emotions on display here.

I wasn't referring to people in this thread specifically. I meant the fact that most people will deny point-blank that robots can be conscious, and I think this is because they find the idea uncomfortable. That's just my opinion.

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In what way is a zombie really different though? This seems to me to be a difference without a distinction. Defining what an "experience" is, seems to be hugely problematic. I have no way of telling, for example, that anyone has any experiences other than me. I ponder the idea of what it even means for me to have an experience.

I would point my sight at the [1) results 2) conditions] if I want to compare experiences.
An experience is nothing but the amount of time you spent at doing something.
-If I analyze the results alone; then I'm judging the quality of the experience (or time spent doing that thing in question).
-If I analyze the conditions alone; then I'm judging the justification of the experience's quality.
As for zombies; they can't generate proper results because the conditions fail them every time; but they are the cause of this failure. In other words; they corrupt their own minds by their own hands.
We are all equal; but the conditions around the experience's generation lead to different results, one of the results is the doomed zombie state.

If you have a zombie and a non-zombie in front of you, how do you tell which is which? To know that "corruption" has gone on, you'd have to know how a person is supposed to be acting before the corruption.