RE: Big Bang theory is not valid.
August 31, 2011 at 5:08 am
(This post was last modified: August 31, 2011 at 5:11 am by Welsh cake.)
(August 30, 2011 at 8:12 pm)Diamond-Deist Wrote: I did not say a creator created the first particles/atoms I said a BB theory would imo require one to do so, where else would these alpha atoms come from?Big Bang theory says nothing at all about any supernatural creator or creators, its only concerned with the early development of our universe, not the origin of it.
Quote:If God has a creator then who created the creator of God and so on, that line continues into an infinite dilemma hence I have no doubt in my mind that God or what you could call a God is infinite ..... however my definition of God is not stable at this point.You mean Infinite regress and that's what happens when you invoke the whole "universe must have had conditions or a cause" clause in order to come into existence, then supply an non-answer by using a "condition-less/causeless god" as first cause in your cosmological argument which is often employed by theists but doesn't make it any less absurd. Logically, God has to have a cause or the whole argument falls apart. You can't have your cake and eat it.
If your god doesn't have to have a first cause, then its safe to say the universe doesn't have to have a first cause either, and thus what is actually debated here is our usage of the word "exist", i.e. how we go about defining reality? Which remains a major unsolved problem in physics.
Quote:Please do not question my personal beliefs as part of this cosmology discussion, they are not one and the same one is science one is personal/religious beliefs and I don't want one sidetracking the other thanks.Wow, now you're going one step further - not only does your god concept not have to have a cause to exist, but now we're not even allowed to address it or critically respond to your claims about this creator hypothesis vs big bang theory. You don't just want cake but the entire confection as well.
