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Are Atheists using Intellectually Dishonest Arguments?
RE: Are Atheists using Intellectually Dishonest Arguments?
(March 19, 2018 at 12:38 pm)Khemikal Wrote: What I'm trying to highlight is that if we -did- take it at face value all we see is that the miracles of "christ" were no more compelling to the "christians" than yahwehs miracles were to the hebrews.  They both immediately set about fashioning some object of worship other than god.  

Even in everyday life..how often do we see someone born again...someone who believes they witnessed some life altering miracle..fall right back into their previous patterns of behavior - or never change them in the first place? It seems like this would be silly, or unrealistic..but in actually -we're- silly and unrealistic, this is something we do. The overall context is the religious.. a demographic already inclined to the silly and unrealistic...and in that light it's not even remarkable for it's silliness. Just more of the same.

Sorry for the slow reply, but I just didn't know what to say because I still don't really understand what you're saying. I'm not sure I agree with you on the second point; I think plenty of people who have experienced what they perceive to be miracles... such as NDE's... are profoundly moved by it in life changing ways; so I don't understand what point you're trying to make; that people take things for granted... or people are fickle... or what? Some, sure, many, maybe... but not all; granted once an experience becomes past tense ie a memory then it loses some of its impact and becomes more abstract/objective to think about... and in that sense could just become another thought among many about a religion... ie become more mundane/taken for granted, but nonetheless I do think if I saw the Red Sea part before my very eyes, that I wouldn't be quick to forget it. By saying it's something we all do, are you saying that you would?
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RE: Are Atheists using Intellectually Dishonest Arguments? - by emjay - March 19, 2018 at 11:17 pm

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