RE: Are Atheists using Intellectually Dishonest Arguments?
March 19, 2018 at 11:21 pm
(This post was last modified: March 19, 2018 at 11:30 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 19, 2018 at 11:17 pm)emjay Wrote: I'm not sure I agree with you on the second point; I think plenty of people who have experienced what they perceive to be miracles... such as NDE's... are profoundly moved by it in life changing ways;Oh, is that why the worlds changed so drastically on the backs of these experiences? Never the same day, from one to the next.
Or..you know...untold people were born again and never once did it threaten their previously held orthodoxy.
Quote:so I don't understand what point you're trying to make; that people take things for granted... or people are fickle... or what? Some, sure, many, maybe... but not all; granted once an experience becomes past tense ie a memory then it loses some of its impact and becomes more abstract/objective to think about... and in that sense could just become another thought among many about a religion... ie become more mundane/taken for granted, but nonetheless I do think if I saw the Red Sea part before my very eyes, that I wouldn't be quick to forget it. By saying it's something we all do, are you saying that you would?That people are silly..and so saying "It sounds silly that people would do x" as though this argued against people doing x is..itself, silly. The golden calf story. Silly..sure...something that people do..also..sure. The mythical hebes did it, the purportedly historical christians did it..and people still do it today. I;ve had people literally cower under me for protection and the very next day seen them decrying the great satan.
I..personally, wouldn't be so foolish as to imagine that god parted the sea for me...... if it parted..but I also wouldn't be surprised in the least when people carved out a bull and threw a party on the other side. Imagining that theres a problem with these stories on -those- grounds is imagining something about people which we know to be untrue. That they're rational actors who make dry and explicable decisions in response to external stimuli.
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