(September 1, 2011 at 12:23 pm)Diamond-Deist Wrote: Second theVOID, yay I've been waiting for you to get here ....... I'm going to enjoy this considering that I'm apparently stupid in your view, just because you talk like you know everything in that sarcastic tone does not mean you do which I will gladly demonstrate.
That's what we've been waiting for.
Quote:So apart from you claiming I should provide equations and all the rest of it (which I may have) lets just stick to the structure of debate for now.
That's what Physics IS.
Quote:Dark matter/energy
Refute my claim that it does not exist, maybe you would save time to just concede defeat on this pillar of the BB.
Neither of these is a 'pillar' of the Big Bang, both the observed gravitational interaction between galaxies that could not be explained via baryonic matter (which infers some kind of 'Dark Matter' with little to no interaction with photons) and the acceleration of the spatial expansion of the universe (which infers a 'dark energy') were proposed AFTER the Big Bang.
If you disprove Dark Matter (which I have yet to see you do) then you have NOT disproved the BBT, you have simply shown that the gravitational interactions between galaxies that WE HAVE OBSERVED must be the product of some OTHER phenomenon. Unless you are going to attempt to show that the observations are statistical flukes (which is extraordinarily unlikely) then you haven't achieved anything significant.
But even assuming you can show than the observations are a statistical fluke you would have no impact on the Big Bang Theory.
Perhaps I can make my point more clearly; Can you explain to me EXACTLY why you think that Dark Matter is a necessary feature of the BBT?
Quote:Now you claim it does not matter to the BB theory, that is an ignorant view at best, it does matter as I explained in my summary of what it is and why it matters.
Unless I missed it you haven't explained ANY of that.
Quote:True if there is no dark matter they would simply try to find another made up phenomena but the fact that they need it still stands, the rest of the BB pillars we will get to shortly.
If there is no "Dark matter" then it simply means there is some other explanation for the observed gravitational interactions. "Dark matter" simply tries to explain a series of observations, nothing more.
Quote:So first Dark matter/energy I have stated it does not exist do you accept or not?
No.
Let me ask you this;
Do you reject the observations of accelerating spatial expansion?
Do you reject the observations of gravitational interaction between galaxies that can't be explained via observing electromagnetic radiation?
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