RE: Latest mass shooting in France
March 25, 2018 at 9:44 am
(This post was last modified: March 25, 2018 at 10:21 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(March 25, 2018 at 9:18 am)CapnAwesome Wrote:(March 25, 2018 at 9:16 am)rskovride Wrote: Yep, its the idea that must be defeated not only the battlefield soldiers. Also, maybe if Harris was not a public personality (ans subject to the ethics police) he would be for a stronger physical deterrent, something more pragmatic.
I agree, and it's really up to more moderate muslims as well. ISIS isn't going to listen to sam harris
And I doubt even the moderate muslims would listen. But maybe non-muslim friends of moderate muslims would.
Moderate muslims give cover for the extreme muslims (and even many 'moderate' muslims aren't exactly moderate in the same way moderate Christians are). And this is a big part of the problem. ISIS isn't going to listen to anyone directly, this is a deeper problem that will hopefully one day be solved farther into the future, by just the whole culture in general slowly becoming more moderate, kind of like what happened to Christianity. Christianity was barbaric hundreds of years ago: Think of the crusades. Muslim culture is just hundreds of years behind.
(March 25, 2018 at 7:08 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: FYI, religious loonies never, EVER get demoralized. Defeat after defeat after defeat simply tells them that their faith isn't strong enough, so they need to do even more to prove themselves to God. And - in their minds - the caliphate IS going to happen, they are merely being tested by Allah.
Right. And even if they die they think they died a hero and will get a reward in heaven. They think that regardless what happens, they can't possibly lose, as long as they do everything they can to kill the enemies of Allah or die trying.
