RE: Regarding the power of religion over emotions
March 27, 2018 at 10:59 am
(This post was last modified: March 27, 2018 at 11:07 am by Mystic.)
^I am insane on both accounts then, medical and your definition haha.
Placebo ends when a person begins to doubt and rationalize. Placebo works to degrees. Doubt seeks certainty.
To give up on the truth because you doubted is not the purpose of doubt nor to doubt the truth after being shown clearly with proofs is not the purpose of doubt.
Doubt is just an indicator that you need further clarification and insight or a need to rekindle and remind yourself of what you know.
My question to you, is what advice are you seeking from people here? What do you want to hear?
You don't like to believe in a supernatural force and creator, sure, but than you will believe people if they tell you can gain that will power and energy without reliable support and source and guidance?
I want you to do the same. Demand evidence on both sides. When I was Atheist that horrible week I was, I sought to search evidence for all the foundations of what makes us human.
What makes an action praiseworthy? What makes a person praiseworthy? How do you inherit your actions? What accountability is there when we do good or bad, how does our personhood inherit the deed scores we score in a given day? What makes you the same person as you were once before?
What makes you who you are? What is your foundational essence?
(March 25, 2018 at 9:48 pm)Macoleco Wrote: As someone who used to believe in God and was a christian, I have a question, specially to ex-believers, now atheists.
I used to do the common religious activies such as praying, and believing I had a personal relationship with God. In many points through my life, I thought God had helped me, and thta he was always watching over me. These kind of believes and activities can cause some very strong emotions over a person. Very positive emotions. It makes you feel safe, strong, energetic, and that you can accomplish anything in your life. It helps you overcome hardships, control negative emotions, etc.
After becoming an a atheist, all of these emotions are gone. Maybe not completely, but not to the same extent. Now I feel more insecure, since I know God is not protecting me. I dont feel like an accomplish anything, since I am not all powerful and God isnt helping me. It is now harder to have a positive outlook of life and the future since there is no God. This idea of God is extremly powerful, and I see almost no way of compete against it only with reason and force of will.
I have been wondering if some ex-believers have reached the same level of "positive emotions" if you may call it, only by force of will and reason.
Just as an anecdote, a few times I have pretended to talk to God as an atheist, and I feel some positive force on me. Perhaps I was so accustomed to this in the past, that it still lingers on me. And please, I dont want any believer telling me it is the power of God telling me to believe again.
Placebo ends when a person begins to doubt and rationalize. Placebo works to degrees. Doubt seeks certainty.
To give up on the truth because you doubted is not the purpose of doubt nor to doubt the truth after being shown clearly with proofs is not the purpose of doubt.
Doubt is just an indicator that you need further clarification and insight or a need to rekindle and remind yourself of what you know.
My question to you, is what advice are you seeking from people here? What do you want to hear?
You don't like to believe in a supernatural force and creator, sure, but than you will believe people if they tell you can gain that will power and energy without reliable support and source and guidance?
I want you to do the same. Demand evidence on both sides. When I was Atheist that horrible week I was, I sought to search evidence for all the foundations of what makes us human.
What makes an action praiseworthy? What makes a person praiseworthy? How do you inherit your actions? What accountability is there when we do good or bad, how does our personhood inherit the deed scores we score in a given day? What makes you the same person as you were once before?
What makes you who you are? What is your foundational essence?