RE: Regarding the power of religion over emotions
March 30, 2018 at 11:47 pm
(This post was last modified: March 31, 2018 at 12:37 am by Godscreated.)
(March 30, 2018 at 6:11 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(March 30, 2018 at 1:19 am)Godscreated Wrote: You played at being a Christian, You couldn't have believed in the real God and now deny Him. You could reject what He wants for you but never deny Him, you could never be an atheist. You see I completely understand.
GC
So you are saying that no one who ever believed in god could ever have their beliefs changed.
The ultimate example of the "no true scotsmen" argument.
I am saying that if one truly believes in the living God they can only deny what He offers, they can't deny His existence. Example, one of your parents subscribes to a way of life you do not believe is right, you can deny that way of life but you can't deny the parent is real. Now don't give me the God can't be seen thing it want work, the person believed with certainty that God exist and that can't change.
GC
(March 30, 2018 at 6:20 am)Whateverist Wrote:(March 25, 2018 at 9:59 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Okay I want, what I will say is you weren't ever a Christian, how could you have been if you believe there is no God. Christianity is no pretend thing nor delusion, it is real with a real God and how do I know this, a personal relationship where God and I communicate in wonderful ways and only in His timing.
GC
The concept involves moving from a condition of being a believer to a condition of no longer believing in God. At the time one believes in God and values that relationship, one is exactly like you GC. (Then, when faith is gone, they are no longer like you. Or maybe your feeling of special chosen-ness prevents you from acknowledging the believer who goes on to abandon their faith as being anything like you .. since God knows you'd never do that.)
Sounds kind of prissy to me.
Answering the bold by me, I believe in the real God and if one believes in Him and then changes their mind about His reality they never believed in the God, this is a simple thing anyone that claims the logic you do should be able to see this. Answer to the part in parenthesis by me, they could have never been like me because I will never reject God because I know for a fact (God given evidence for me) that God is real. I'm super glad I was chosen by God to be a part of His family, by Christ's death and resurrection and God's grace I'm saved for a future of eternal life. I'm realistic in this matter, you are just trying to justify your own life in this matter and the only justification that counts is God's.
GC
(March 30, 2018 at 9:27 am)rskovride Wrote:(March 25, 2018 at 9:59 pm)Godscreated Wrote: Okay I want, what I will say is you weren't ever a Christian, how could you have been if you believe there is no God. Christianity is no pretend thing nor delusion, it is real with a real God and how do I know this, a personal relationship where God and I communicate in wonderful ways and only in His timing.
GC
Would this not make apostasy impossible?
Or are you one of those "you atheists really do believe, you are just rebelling"?
No and no.
GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
