(September 3, 2011 at 11:52 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote:(September 3, 2011 at 11:50 pm)Fred Wrote: Well, that's your problem right there. It's not that there isn't any evidence, it's that you aren't looking in the right place. When you say unobserved, unobserved by who?
Fantastic!! And these people are??
(September 3, 2011 at 11:50 pm)Fred Wrote: So far, there's no cogent answer to what even constitutes proof or why, just the repeated insistence that it isn't there. I know it's a sever sore point when folks point out that materialistic atheism is akin to religion as far as being faith-based, but there's a reason why it comes up over and over, and not from fundies. Instead of dismissing it as "not this shit again," it would be interesting to examine why the charge keeps coming up.
Very glib answer but you have not addressed the question I raised.
I don't know what was glib about it. Seems straight forward to me. Regardless, the folks who have observed are the folks following the esoteric systems I mentioned in my last post, the yogis, sufis, the zen folk, the Christian mystics, kabbalahist, et. al.