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Hadiths and deceivers.
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RE: Hadiths and deceivers.
(April 22, 2018 at 4:56 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(April 21, 2018 at 11:05 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: No; the "leap" is the step taken after the observation takes place.
First, you notice something strange about the world and about the universe.
Second, you begin to search for explanations. One of the explanations is stated in the Quran.

There are so many explanations out there, rejecting all explanations is what you are: atheism.

Personally; I take the explanation in the Quran for the design to be a perfect sign of confirmation: the design led me to search, the found explanation led me to believe that the design served a purpose, both are dependent on each other.

So why aren't you then a Christian?  Or a Jew?  Or a Hindu?  These all have creation stories.  What you are saying doesn't make sense.  On top of that, creation stories are so common, it's like saying that because the bible mentions Egypt, a real place, then the rest of it is true.  Design gets you to a generic god; to go further and conclude the God of the Quran, you have to add something that isn't there.

Because their creation stories did not make any sense to me.
Take Genesis: earth was dark, then God added light.
Where does it say that God created the darkness itself? what made me believe in the Quran is this exact thought: it specifies that God made everything including the darkness itself; declared explicitly in this verse:

Quote:Sura 17, The Quran:
( 12 )   And We have made the night and day two signs, and We erased the sign of the night and made the sign of the day visible that you may seek bounty from your Lord and may know the number of years and the account [of time]. And everything We have set out in detail.

Where is that in Genesis? God there is a God of "light"; a God missing the ability to make darkness, he found it already covering earth -that is more of a side effect??-, while the God of the Quran is the creator of both darkness and light, Sura 17 verse 12 says that.

God in the Quran is more complete. And that's what can convince me: perfection.

Hindu Gods and Jesus as a lord are very...humanoids?
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Hadiths and deceivers. - by MysticKnight - April 20, 2018 at 4:15 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Ravenshire - April 20, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Minimalist - April 20, 2018 at 4:53 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2018 at 6:26 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 20, 2018 at 5:48 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by brewer - April 20, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Edwardo Piet - April 20, 2018 at 7:28 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by WinterHold - April 20, 2018 at 7:29 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2018 at 3:35 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by robvalue - April 21, 2018 at 3:50 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Edwardo Piet - April 21, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2018 at 3:59 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 21, 2018 at 4:26 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2018 at 4:41 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by robvalue - April 21, 2018 at 4:45 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2018 at 5:02 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by robvalue - April 21, 2018 at 6:55 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by WinterHold - April 21, 2018 at 6:35 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Angrboda - April 21, 2018 at 7:58 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2018 at 6:44 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by WinterHold - April 21, 2018 at 10:27 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 21, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2018 at 7:36 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by WinterHold - April 21, 2018 at 11:05 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Angrboda - April 22, 2018 at 4:56 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by WinterHold - April 22, 2018 at 8:54 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by MysticKnight - April 21, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Brian37 - April 21, 2018 at 10:48 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 21, 2018 at 10:13 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Neo-Scholastic - April 21, 2018 at 7:15 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by MysticKnight - April 21, 2018 at 7:23 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Edwardo Piet - April 22, 2018 at 4:56 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by Brian37 - April 21, 2018 at 8:03 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by downbeatplumb - April 22, 2018 at 3:28 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by robvalue - April 22, 2018 at 5:44 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2018 at 8:07 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 8:55 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by WinterHold - April 22, 2018 at 10:41 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2018 at 9:00 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:02 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2018 at 9:04 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:17 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2018 at 9:19 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:22 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by MysticKnight - April 22, 2018 at 9:48 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2018 at 9:49 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by The Grand Nudger - April 22, 2018 at 11:46 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by yragnitup - April 23, 2018 at 5:16 am
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by yragnitup - April 23, 2018 at 11:14 pm
RE: Hadiths and deceivers. - by yragnitup - April 24, 2018 at 10:21 pm

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