(September 3, 2011 at 1:52 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: I just did..I gave you a BLUNT one and you just brushed it off and started back up with the "wheres your proof?" again. I post proof and you grab the goal posts and back up some more.. keep moving that goal post back further and soon you will convince yourself that you are the only "true" libertarian that exists.Your example was a fascist party claiming support for Ron Paul. It was not a statement made by the Libertarian Party in support of fascism, or a fascist policy. It amazes me that I even have to explain how your example is fallacious...it should be obvious to anyone. If you decided to run for office, and I supported you, would that make you a Libertarian? No. Now apply the same logic you used there to the "evidence" you gave me.
Quote:I put Glenn Beck in front of you guys and you are like "NO, NO, NO, He's not a Libertarian..he only says he's one! No 'true' libertarian would say some of the things he does say."So let me get this straight...you are allowed to say "Oh, but Obama isn't a true progressive", but we aren't allowed to say "Oh, but Glenn Beck isn't a Libertarian". Thanks for the double standard. Glenn Beck is as much a Libertarian as Obama is a progressive, that's why we say he's not a "true" Libertarian.
Quote:So, in the end, we have a group of "true" libertarians (Void and Adrian OBVIOUSLY being members) who hold economic policies that cannot fail, and one would only be a fool to vote other wise, and the goal post is successfully out of reach of anyone or anything possibly scoring against us 'true' libertarians.I never said that Libertarians hold economic policies which cannot fail. The success and failure of policies doesn't negate one's Libertarianism. I'm fine with admitting that Libertarianism is an experimental political ideology at best; it hasn't been tried and tested yet. Thus it may be that Libertarianism in practice is the wrong thing to do.
We aren't moving the goal posts here. The goal posts we've already defined pretty well. You can go to any dictionary or to Wikipedia, or a Libertarian party manifesto and read the definition of Libertarianism. That definition is what we base the goalposts on. What has happened is that you have given "evidence" after evidence, and we have judged it based on the definition of Libertarianism, and every time it has fallen short in some way. That isn't us moving the goalposts, it's you failing to even reach them in the first place.
