Civility subsection suggestion

[Joods]

I'm against it. We have a perfectly good debate section. The fact that people do not take advantage of it is not a problem with the structure of AF.

Debate threads are invitation only and participants can set their own rules. There is no reason that someone cannot put up a "Call to Debate: (topic)" in the appropriate forum to solicit participants the way Mafia Games are organized.

This is exactly what I said in the other thread about the fact that we have a debate section. Honestly, putting yet more limitations on what we are or are not allowed to say is just absurd. If people want serious discussion, they can utilize the debate section.

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No problem. And no, what im suggesting here is not a debate forum. I specified as much on the OP.

That's what I gather... a normal forum section where the rules impose civility, friendliness, etc... much like the intro section.
That would have the benefit of believers feeling better, as the evil atheists wouldn't jump to insults.

bold mine. 

That runs both ways. There have been plenty of times where a theist jumps right in with the insults the second their opinions get challenged and they are asked to give proof by an atheist. Or they quote mine shit to death just to prove a completely irrelevant point in a thread that has nothing to do with what was spent minimal time finding and quoting. 

There are plenty of forums out there in the WWW that cater to the religious and who will instantly and gladly ban any atheists that come along and try to reasonably share a differing point of view. We don't do that here. If the rules are going to change so that we have to walk on eggshells just to appease the feelings of those who believe in a god, then you might find yourself losing some valuable participants.  I for one, shouldn't have to have a limit placed on what I can say or how I can respond to someone who posts views that I don't agree with. This is an "Atheist forum" and this is my comfort spot. Yes, theists are welcome, and gladly so. But asking for these sorts of restrictions in a new sub-forum when we already have another sub-forum in place to have rational discussion, is really redundant.

I think this is a very slippery slope to try and walk here. We have enough rules now as it is. Adding yet another sub-forum to the site, which places restrictions on how or what we can say is unwise, given the lack of enforcement with some of the rules we have in place now. More often than not - when a post is made and someone has an issue with it, we have to rely on staff opinion to determine whether or not a rule was broken. Proposing this new sub-form just won't work. Half the time the "prime directive" of many threads gets totally ignored and nothing is done when stuff is actually reported. In addition, new people constantly fail to actually read the rules anyway so a sub-forum limiting what can be said isn't going to suddenly make anyone read or follow those rules.