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We need more theistic activity
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RE: We need more theistic activity
(May 2, 2018 at 1:44 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: I do not fear transgender people and as such I cannot be trans-“phobic”. That is slur plain and simple. I believe that all people, including Christians, should extend to to the transgendered the same love and compassion as any other human being. That does not include denying reality and the harmful personal and cultural consequences of doing so.  No one needs to be a psychologist to know that anyone who was born objectively identifiable as the one sex but subjectively feels they are the opposite sex has a mental illness.

While it is true that some hateful people classify transgenders as metally ill for no other reason than to demonize them, I personally believe they are in the minority and I do not in any way endorse such callous misuse of medical diagnosis. The purpose of accurate diagnosis is to identify the most effective treatment. IMHO it is not loving or compassionate to deny people with medical conditions appropriate and effective treatments based on personal feelings.  In that respect, transgenderism is no different from anorexia, wherein the personal self-image of the individual is drastically at odds with physical facts. I do not know or claim to know what the right treatment is for any particular individual…transitioning, talk therapy, etc.  That is between them and their doctor or therapist. Or someone can be personally fine, accepting of their condition, and live productively with no treatment at all. Good for them. But don’t expect others to distort language to satisfy totalitarian urges to control how other people express themselves or shut them out of civil society. Having your feelings protected from uncomfortable opinions or even the unwarranted opinions of others is not a right.

I am certain that some people sincerely believe this is a civil rights issue and have nothing but the best intentions. I have common ground with such folks. The Americans with Disabilities Act is a civil rights bill designed for people with medical conditions well beyond paralysis and blindness. Allowing transitioned people to use the bathroom matching their transitioned state seems to me like a reasonable accommodation under ADA. Undermining Title IX or the readiness of our military is not.

At the same time, I do not believe that most of the people advocating for transgender rights have the best interest of the transgendered in mind; but rather, are either caught up in the insidious lies of post-modernism or are trying to promote a truly wicked social agenda intent on destroying the foundations of Western liberalism. I have nothing but contempt for the transparent virtue-signaling of vile revolutionaries like Divinity and find their false accusations of bigotry disgusting. As such I often over-react in ways that do not accurate reflect my sincerely held belief and said things that are mean. I have apologized for those times. That does not excuse the self-righteous hate of Hammy, Divinity, and similar would be thought-police who goad and misrepresent the positions of people with whom they disagree politically.

BTW here is the thread I started on "Tiffany" that Hammy considers hateful: https://atheistforums.org/thread-53618-p...pid1708089

I can get behind a lot of what you're saying here. However, I do not have a problem with calling another grown adult whatever they prefer me to call them. It's a matter of respect, imho. With that being said, I do agree with most of the above.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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We need more theistic activity - by Foxaèr - April 30, 2018 at 7:29 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Edwardo Piet - April 30, 2018 at 7:34 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Foxaèr - April 30, 2018 at 7:37 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 1, 2018 at 11:13 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Catholic_Lady - April 30, 2018 at 7:38 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Foxaèr - April 30, 2018 at 7:39 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Edwardo Piet - April 30, 2018 at 7:41 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Succubus - April 30, 2018 at 9:42 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Catholic_Lady - April 30, 2018 at 9:46 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Minimalist - April 30, 2018 at 8:22 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - April 30, 2018 at 9:48 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Grand Nudger - April 30, 2018 at 11:09 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - April 30, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by vulcanlogician - April 30, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Whateverist - May 1, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by vorlon13 - May 1, 2018 at 10:42 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Catholic_Lady - May 1, 2018 at 10:54 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Edwardo Piet - May 1, 2018 at 5:23 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Foxaèr - May 1, 2018 at 6:57 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by vulcanlogician - May 1, 2018 at 11:00 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Grandizer - May 1, 2018 at 11:08 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by vulcanlogician - May 1, 2018 at 11:20 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Grandizer - May 2, 2018 at 5:53 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by ignoramus - May 1, 2018 at 1:24 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Napoléon - May 1, 2018 at 4:43 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by vorlon13 - May 1, 2018 at 11:16 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 1, 2018 at 11:19 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by RoadRunner79 - May 1, 2018 at 11:26 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by vorlon13 - May 1, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 1, 2018 at 11:38 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Joods - May 1, 2018 at 12:53 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Catholic_Lady - May 1, 2018 at 11:51 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 1, 2018 at 12:02 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Edwardo Piet - May 2, 2018 at 6:32 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Catholic_Lady - May 1, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 1, 2018 at 12:35 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 1, 2018 at 1:28 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Joods - May 1, 2018 at 1:21 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by brewer - May 1, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Joods - May 1, 2018 at 1:32 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Joods - May 1, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Ravenshire - May 1, 2018 at 1:40 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by brewer - May 1, 2018 at 1:40 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 1, 2018 at 2:06 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Catholic_Lady - May 2, 2018 at 3:56 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Edwardo Piet - May 3, 2018 at 5:50 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by KevinM1 - May 2, 2018 at 2:21 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by KevinM1 - May 2, 2018 at 3:33 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by KevinM1 - May 2, 2018 at 9:12 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 3, 2018 at 2:15 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 3, 2018 at 2:36 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by brewer - May 3, 2018 at 3:10 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 3, 2018 at 3:13 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by brewer - May 3, 2018 at 6:33 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 3, 2018 at 7:53 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Foxaèr - May 3, 2018 at 7:57 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Grandizer - May 3, 2018 at 5:52 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Grandizer - May 3, 2018 at 9:54 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by KevinM1 - May 3, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Edwardo Piet - May 3, 2018 at 11:12 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - May 2, 2018 at 3:47 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by brewer - May 2, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - May 2, 2018 at 5:17 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by brewer - May 2, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by robvalue - May 3, 2018 at 11:31 am
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Drich - May 3, 2018 at 2:01 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by John V - May 3, 2018 at 2:49 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Foxaèr - May 3, 2018 at 3:14 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by vorlon13 - May 3, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - May 3, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Brian37 - May 3, 2018 at 3:47 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - May 3, 2018 at 3:50 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Brian37 - May 3, 2018 at 4:04 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - May 3, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Crossless2.0 - May 3, 2018 at 4:14 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - May 3, 2018 at 6:39 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by brewer - May 3, 2018 at 8:17 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by The Valkyrie - May 3, 2018 at 9:10 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by Foxaèr - May 3, 2018 at 8:23 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by KevinM1 - May 3, 2018 at 9:34 pm
RE: We need more theistic activity - by robvalue - May 4, 2018 at 1:16 am

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