RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 7, 2018 at 9:24 am
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2018 at 9:57 am by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 6, 2018 at 7:45 pm)Succubus Wrote: Double post.
(May 6, 2018 at 7:37 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Mathilda was telling her trolling story as a comparison to Chad.
Is this a non sequitur I see?
I think a better description was: She missed the point of the analogy. Being a troll and stopping being a troll is just one personal example Mathilda gave for modifying behavior in response to punishment (or as Mathilda said 'cause and effect'... I don't know what word she wants to call non-retributive punishment besides "punishment". For me punishment and retribution aren't necessarily one and the same at all. I believe in consequentalist punishment and it seems to me that is actually what Mathilda is advocating for).
So the point is that Neo can learn from his behavior when we punish him just as she did from being punished for trolling... but that does not mean she was punished or that Neo should be punished because he deserves it, in a retributive way. Just that it's the best way to discourage him being a cunt in future: consequentalist punishment.
Seen as 'punishment' often has retribuitive connotations (although not as much as something as say... 'just deserts').... perhaps someone can suggest a better word here?
