(May 7, 2018 at 1:24 pm)Joods Wrote:(May 7, 2018 at 12:36 pm)alpha male Wrote: You're nullifying theists as people by assuming they were indoctrinated into those positions, rather than reaching them by rational thought.bold mine.
Oh please. Do tell me what sort of rational thought, a 4 or 5 year old sitting in a children's church being taught how beautiful the story of Noah's ark is, could possibly have?
You know as well as I do that the vast majority of believers, do so because their parents taught them about god and how he was good and great. So they grew up thinking that god was real. And then they did it to their children and their children did it to their children ad nauseum. How else do you think religion has survived as long as it has? Indoctrination yes. Rational thought? Hell no. If theists had any sort of rational thought, they wouldn't be theists in the first place.
You are being completely disingenuous when you say otherwise.
I'm speaking from personal experience. Church was pretty hit-or-miss when I was growing up, and we discussed none of the topics that she mentioned there. So, no, I wasn't indoctrinated.
Sure, lots of believers were indoctrinated in some matters. Even so, are you arguing that it's good to apply stereotypes, rather than treat people as individuals? Sure seems that way.
