RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 7, 2018 at 1:40 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2018 at 1:40 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(May 7, 2018 at 1:32 pm)alpha male Wrote:(May 7, 2018 at 1:24 pm)Joods Wrote: bold mine.
Oh please. Do tell me what sort of rational thought, a 4 or 5 year old sitting in a children's church being taught how beautiful the story of Noah's ark is, could possibly have?
You know as well as I do that the vast majority of believers, do so because their parents taught them about god and how he was good and great. So they grew up thinking that god was real. And then they did it to their children and their children did it to their children ad nauseum. How else do you think religion has survived as long as it has? Indoctrination yes. Rational thought? Hell no. If theists had any sort of rational thought, they wouldn't be theists in the first place.
You are being completely disingenuous when you say otherwise.
I'm speaking from personal experience. Church was pretty hit-or-miss when I was growing up, and we discussed none of the topics that she mentioned there. So, no, I wasn't indoctrinated.
Sure, lots of believers were indoctrinated in some matters. Even so, are you arguing that it's good to apply stereotypes, rather than treat people as individuals? Sure seems that way.
Most believes were indoctrinated. It's not a stereotype... it's a statistic. It's very much like Neo said... it's only like saying men are taller than women rather than saying "most men are taller than women". It's just shorthand. Only a total moron would think that a person was claiming "Absolutely 100% of theists are indoctrinated, without exception" or "Absolutely 100% of men are taller than women, without exception". If someone literally said "All theists are idiots" or, even, yes "all theists are indoctrinated" then that would be an unfair generalization and a stereotype--as opposed to a statistic--yes.
