RE: Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread
May 7, 2018 at 5:39 pm
(This post was last modified: May 7, 2018 at 5:44 pm by Whateverist.)
(May 7, 2018 at 5:26 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 7, 2018 at 3:05 pm)Drich Wrote: What this says is we are not all built the same. You are a hand and demand to be greeted as a hand, not only that you worshiped as a hand and only know how to praise as a hand. I came to you as a foot and greeted you as a foot. being 'snow flake' hand you thought it offensive to be greeted as a foot.
I think we all know what part of the human body you are, Drich.
Huh, thought he was a certain part of a horse's body.
(May 7, 2018 at 5:27 pm)Mathilda Wrote:(May 7, 2018 at 1:43 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: I think every single person participating in this discussion right now (myself certainly included), with the exception of CL, has slung a vile insult or two at someone from accross the pond, so maybe we should all take a breath and put our fingers down, lest we poke our own eyes out. We can all do better.
True, and I admitted to have done it myself in my earlier post. But the point I was making is that I suspect that the theists often don't actually realise how they are offending people. If you have been indoctrinated to see that something about other people is sinful and disgusting, then you'll feel that on an emotional level and believe it to be true even if you cannot rationalise it. But if you then disregard everything that the person says to you and continue sprouting forth your own indoctrination then it can be extremely hurtful to those who have tried reaching out to you. You are basically telling them that they are worth less as human beings. I admit this is why CL has previously rubbed me up the wrong way in the past even though I know that she doesn't intend it. I also admit that's why I didn't hold back making my thread about how I theism childish even though I knew that theists wouldn't find it offensive (even though it was not the intention behind it)
^this^
The number one barrier between better relations between theists and well meaning non theists is the cavalier assumption on the part of theists that we need fixing and they are entitled to attempt it. (The number one barrier between theists and angry atheists is probably unresolved resentment toward theists which rightly belongs to other believers in the atheists' lives.)