Open discussion of the Christian Why We're Here thread

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And my point was that plenty of atheists also think we need fixing. Just as one example, few months ago, Mathilda made a whole thread full of unflattering generalizations about how theists are immature and not properly raised.

The point of my post in defense of Neo was to say that plenty of people here are guilty of doing exactly what he did. So I think there's a bit of a double standard when Neo gets dragged through the mud for doing the same thing that plenty of people here have done.

I explained already that I had originally held back from writing that thread but after having been offended by theists I decided not to hold back. I can say now that it was predominantly because of some of Neo's threads.

But I shall emphasise the point that I am trying to make because you seem to keep ignoring it.

It is that the theists seem to not understand how they are offending others and therefore see themselves as the only ones who are being hurt when the backlash comes.

That's not to say that what atheists are saying wouldn't be offensive as well. You make valid points about how some of the things said such as religion as a mental illness is offensive. That doesn't mean to say that they aren't necessarily valid arguments though. But I would like to point out one other small thing. This is a fucking atheist forum. This is where atheists come to talk about being an atheist, most often because they have to live lives surrounded by theists offensively trying to save them again after the struggle of breaking free from religion. And some people have been quite abused by religion. Many atheists have to pretend to be a theist and can't even live their own lives. Being a theist you don't have that problem. So don't come here expecting the kind of privilege that you have in your society to be given to you here as well in what for many is an atheist refuge.

Otherwise it's like being a white straight man offended at being told that it's inappropriate to try sleeping with as many women as possible in a woman's refuge.

 I don't believe your bold red statement is necessarily true. I do know that some Christians do not see they are hurting people and it's because they think they can judge atheist because they do not believe. I think that some Christians understand they are hurting atheist and do so purposely because they believe it's the only way to reach them. I think some Christians do it to impress Christians who do hurt atheist. I know all those who do this are child like in their thinking and ignore the words of Jesus. Then you have Christians who try to witness and be polite and are laughed at from both sides. You need to remember when a Christian is speaking to an atheist about God's word he/she has a very hard time being honest without bring up what God's word says and you know what, many of those Christians have already applied those very things to their lives, I know I have, no one is harder on me than myself because I realize that I need all of God's word so my life can be better. The word of God has brought more hurt (justified hurt) to me than all the atheist on this site have over the past 8 years and I accept that hurt because I know it's justified and in the end will make me a better person/Christian. As for hurtful things to say to a Christian is to call them a theist, a theist can be many things but a Christian can only be a follower of Christ. Jesus did not cut the sinners any slack especially those who knew what they were doing was wrong. Yet Jesus did it to help them see that they were outside God's will and wanted nothing more than for them to understand they needed His redemption. Sometimes hurtful things are that because they are true and those are justified as long as it doesn't go into ridicule. Mathilda this isn't just for you but for everyone on this site, Christians included of which I'm one. We all get to sensitive at times and I'm betting that the past has more to do with it than what was said at in a post. 

GC