(May 8, 2018 at 8:18 am)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(May 8, 2018 at 7:27 am)Hammy Wrote: As I've already pointed out many times before: SAYING THAT ALL THEISM IS IRRATIONAL IS NOT THE SAME THING AS SAYING ALL THEISTS ARE IRRATIONAL.
If I write it in caps will you actually read it this time?
You didn't say atheism was stupid, you aimed your insult at atheists, not atheism, there's a difference. Try to notice.
So correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems that by your logic, I can say that all atheism is irrational, but I cannot say that specific arguments made by particular atheists is irrational. This seems quite backwards to me! For one, "theism" or "atheism" is a description about one's belief in regards to God. You cannot say that the "ISM" is irrational, but the person is not. It is the person who has the belief, and may be rational or irrational; in the forming of that belief, not the ideology. So I think that you are trying to make a distinction without a difference here. As to where my insult was aimed, it was pointed at specific arguments. As I said in the beginning, I don't give much weight to vague and un-falsifiable claims. If you say, I'm being irrational, show me where; let's look at the claim and see if it is true. If you say I need education, tell me what I need to learn. Just telling me, that I'm stupid or irrational, or even my position is nothing more than name calling. And that is where I have the problem, when there is nothing more to it than that. Nothing constructive, nothing falsifiable, nothing which can be examined.
That paragraph was seriously fucked up.