RE: Theists - I want to know what you think
May 10, 2018 at 3:31 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2018 at 3:32 pm by Neo-Scholastic.
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(May 10, 2018 at 2:15 pm)Hammy Wrote: There is no such thing as refusing to believe (or choosing to believe) via 'open rebellion'. Belief isn't like that.
Nonsense. You are confusing ends and means, i.e. choosing a belief versus holding it. Choosing to believe includes all the precursory activity leading to knowledge, such as fact seeking, challenging assumptions, reframing perspectives, and making a sincere effort to reflect about an issue...and then after all that choosing to accept it. When someone like alpha says that you choose not to believe, and he can correct me if I am wrong, he means that you are not taking a question seriously enough to consider other possibilities and/or not subjecting your current beliefs (or lack thereof) up for scrutiny, and even if you did find everything tilted in favor of a certain conclusion, even then, you could choose not to accept it. You cannot escape responsibility for your own choices, Hammy.
(May 10, 2018 at 2:15 pm)Hammy Wrote:(May 8, 2018 at 9:13 am)SteveII Wrote: Yes, lacking belief in God is rational. You have not been presented incontrovertible proof to the contrary and as such a reasonable position to hold. However, such a position is a tacit admission of all kinds of gaps in your worldview--whether you know/admit they exist or not.
There's no gap for atheists such as myself who believe in a first cause.[/i]
LOL. There is a whole host of gaps! The persistence of being, intelligibility, rational order, moral facts...the list goes on and on. Your only escape is to ignore the Principle of Sufficient reason and call everything for which atheism cannot even hope to address a "brute fact."
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