Best Theistic Arguments

[Little Rik]

Yours are just dreams, guesses, fantasies and a lot of BS.

I can do things with my head that you cannot.  Any questions?

No question yog and the reason is that I quite agree with you in this case.
I always knew that your head is capable of banging on the wall or any hard surface with little damage.
All those who have a thick head can do that.
Unfortunately for you a head full of brains is much much better than a thick head.
I guess you never though of that yog, did you?    

I on the other hand base my statements on evidence.  
NDEs are evidence.  

NDEs are evidence that vibrations are alive, or that life only comes from life?  You're obviously on crack.

Obviously you haven't read much of NDEs experiences or you do not believe them in any case.
If you would have you would have noticed that almost all of them talk about vibrations and how all is connected to each other.  

That life come from previous life is also evidence.

If you mean that in some cases, life comes from life, then that won't get you the justification you need for concluding that vibrations are alive.  That can only be justified by claiming that life only comes from life.  If you had evidence for that claim, you might have a point.  Unfortunately you don't, and despite your repeated claim that science is on your side, science doesn't support your claim.  It's just dogma you believe.

WRONG ONCE AGAIN YOG.



So far there is no evidence that life can come from non life.
NONE OF WHATSOEVER.

In fact all the evidence that we have so far point to.......LIFE COME FROM LIFE.  
In the past and even now many people thought that matter equal to no life.
Fortunately not all people are so stupid to believe that matter is void of life.
Matter is energy-vibration as yoga say and as Einstein and other smart scientists found out.  

That everything is made of vibrations is not only stated by yoga but also from the cream of scientists.

Since I haven't disputed you on this point, I can only assume that you are once again confusing Einstein's supposed quote that, "Everything is vibration," with your claim that vibrations are alive.  If everything is made of vibrations that doesn't help you any in your claim that vibrations are alive, but apparently you don't realize that.  So your point here is apparently just you being stupid again.

I come to that point below.

You see the difference yog?

Oh, I see a difference alright.

Of course you see the difference yog.

...Where is the evidence that a non life exist?
That is exactly the question that i keep on asking to yog and that she keep on avoiding.  

The claim that I am avoiding your question is simply yet another one of your stupid lies.  I introduced the question by noting that there were three apparently indistinguishable positions, here, on April 8th.  On April 18th when you asked me the same basic question, "Where the non life suppose to be yog?" I told you explicitly that, "I haven't made a claim in the matter."  What exactly am I supposed to be providing evidence for?  For a position I do not hold?  No, as I also stated on the question of whether life can come from non-life, I again stated quite explicitly that, "As an atheist, I tend more toward an agnostic position that it is simply unknown whether or not life can come from non-life, and maintain no certainty one way or the other."

Wrong again yog.

You can not say.........I AM AN ATHEIST........and at the same time say....... haven't made a claim in the matter.
Of course you do made a claim.
By saying I AM AN ATHEIST you imply that life does not come from a creator therefore it must pop up from non life.
Well if you do not know where this non life is or exist at all then don't you find extremely foolish to speculate that there is no creator?
That is highly stupid view.  

Apparently you feel that this is a new audience, so you can lie through your teeth and get away with it.

Not at all yog.
I was quite happy with the EVOLUTION thread but because you gave up on that I am here now.
If you think I ever lie then show me where these lies are.  

I'm here to tell you you're wrong, you lying sack of shit.  The only reason you're asking such questions is because you want to get off the hot seat you put yourself on, and you think changing the subject and making this about me will have that effect.  And despite your lies, you haven't managed to distance yourself from the scenario in which the Christian God is responsible for making nature and vibrations behave the way they do, so you have nothing upon which to base your conclusion that the vibrations are alive.

Christian or not Christian religions put together so many dogmas and false truth that now it has become a mountain of nonsensical and absurd thing to waste one's time and energy to go through all of them beside in several occasions I already explained how the system according to yoga works.
Low form of life are driven by instinct while in human life the instinct is checked by free will so God in this case does not usually intervene and the karma law at the end will sort out the unbalance which has been created by humans.    

But as long as you're asking questions about non-life, let's take a moment to ask to what the term 'life' refers.  The dictionary says the following:

life, n.

1.    the condition that distinguishes animals and plants from inorganic matter, including the capacity for growth, reproduction, functional activity, and continual change preceding death.

Inorganic matter has life too.
The thing is that life in matter lie in a latent, inactive or dormant stage.
That dictionary unfortunately doesn't consider this point.
So wrong again yog.

If you're claiming that you know that vibrations grow, reproduce, and change over time, then I'd like to see some evidence of this.  You've said previously that life in so-called inanimate matter is hidden or obscured from view (here).  If you're defining life to mean simply the capability to cause motion, then you're effectively just redefining the word.  If by 'alive' you simply mean that vibrations move, you've essentially gutted your claim of any meaning.  But you claim more than that.  You claim that vibrations are conscious, and that this quantity within inanimate matter is capable of migrating, say, from a rock, into the nascent form of a blade of grass, and from there into an animal, and, hopefully, ultimately into the consciousness of a human being.  So I have to ask, what properties of human consciousness are you claiming exist in inanimate matter?  If you're saying that it's both "like human consciousness" but that it is also "not like human consciousness," then you're just speaking incoherent and contradictory nonsense.

So tell us what exactly you mean when you use the terms 'life', 'non-life', and 'consciousness'.  

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the scientific evidence you seem to claim to have but are forever being unable to actually produce.  As I've said before, put up or shut up.

Thought is vibration.
Emotion is vibration.
Feeling is vibration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqM3TE5TDw8

Check at 13.15 if you don't want to see all 24.29.


So if we express thoughts, emotions and feeling they of course must be alive.
How can be dead?  
If one is dead also the other is dead but because we know that feelings, emotions and thoughts are alive we also conclude that vibrations are alive.