(May 15, 2018 at 8:11 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(May 15, 2018 at 7:22 am)Little Rik Wrote: Obviously you haven't read much of NDEs experiences or you do not believe them in any case.
If you would have you would have noticed that almost all of them talk about vibrations and how all is connected to each other.
Incidentally, in reviewing several NDEs I came across the following NDE account in which the experiencer created multiple NDEs by taking the drug ketamine. So much for your claim that NDEs cannot be caused by chemicals in the brain. I think that's the end of any justification for believing uncorroborated NDE content.
https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/1fred_b_ketamine.html
Obviously the guy know that he did something quite wrong by trying to experience something that should only be given in a natural way by God.
When I was about 18 I also did experienced something big with the use of LSD.
I regret I ever did that but that is past.
LSD, ketamine or many other substances are able to open to a certain degree the pineal gland where God is.
The guy himself said that is cheating and cheating prevent you from see God.
All you can see are glimpses of the outside.
In this way the consciousness is unable to leave the body as in a real NDE experience where God welcome you.
Quote:Let's take this another direction so that I can illustrate one of the points I have about evidence from NDEs. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that last night I dreamed that I left my body and traveled to heaven where I met God and Jesus. They explained to me that God is the ground of being, that anything which happens in life is because He is causing it. The explanation for why vibrations exist is because He is causing them to vibrate. I happen to believe that the things that happen in dreams are actually real. (And we have evidence from prophetic dreams, both in the bible [here], as well as contemporary accounts that things dreamed about do in some cases reveal things the dreamer could not have known independent of the dream.) Now, given that I had a dream which showed me that vibrations are not alive, and that some dream content is independently corroborated, do I have justification for believing that vibrations are not alive based on this dream that I had?
Million of people dream all sort of things but those things never come through.
In very few instances dreams come through but that is the law of statistics.

To conclude........NO.
You have no........ justification for believing that vibrations are not alive based on this pretend dream that YOU had?