(May 9, 2018 at 11:52 pm)Kit Wrote:The Universe had a beginning, therefore God. The cause is always greater than the effect. GR proves that the universe previously didn’t exist. Let’s don’t hear any nonsense appeal about metaphysical speculations of a multiverse to avoid the ineluctable conclusion that a Causal agent transcendental to space and time, brought the universe into exist for his own purposes*. Earth is the center of the universe, all points in the universe can claim the physical center, only Earth is where the information is, which makes it the center.(May 9, 2018 at 11:49 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Surprisingly, so many people don’t acknowledge that ‘creation’ itself is evidence of God. What is happening here is that their fallen nature is at enmity with God and attempts to wrap itself with a veneer of intellectualism, or some other defense as the Spanish Inquisition, Preist doing unsavory acts, 'religious' stepfather was abusive But in their quiet moments, they have to keep reminding themselves that there isn’t any God. Like the poet said ‘truth is like dust, just can’t get rid of that stuff; it just keeps hanging around’. That why atheists: crave reassurance that their uneasy feeling is not really justified, yet that feeling keeps haunting their conscience. That's because every person is blessed with a spirit (eternal and gives knowledge of God), the 3'rd component, the other 2 are mind and body - animals only have these 2 components.
"Creation" is not evidence of god, though. To a subjective observer, perhaps, the type who finds comfort in the readily available answer.
*He has saved us and called us to a holy life--not because of anything we have done but because of his own purpose and grace. This grace was given us in Christ Jesus before the beginning of time.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.