Best Theistic Arguments

[Edwardo Piet]

The Universe had a beginning, therefore God.

So a mindless non-supernatural singularity can be labelled with the word "God"?

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Why do you guys always trot out this "saved" business?
Saved from what?

saved us from death and of eternal damnation.... He gave us eternal life ..(after the death of the body)..

Seems to me like believers believe in the unknowable. And I don't just mean unknowable in any sense, even relatively, not just absolute knowledge. If something happens after we die there is no way of us possibly knowing while we're still alive.

And if our brain dies but some part of us lives on... is that really 'us' if our whole personality and all our memories have disintegrated? If we have past lives are they really 'our' lives if we have no memory of them? Similar sort of thing to me.

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It's not that these things don't need evidence, it's that there can't ever be any evidence for or against them because they are untestable/unfalsifiable. That's exactly how religion gets away with all this. As soon as it tries to step into the realm of the testable, it fails immediately.

So it all comes down to a reverse of the burden of proof. And a whole "You can't prove God doesn't exist" thing. Well of course we can't, because God is defined in such a way that his existence and nonexistence seem to be exactly identical.