Little Rik Wrote:surreptitious57 Wrote:You cannot be dead if you have only had a near death experience because nearly being dead and actually being dead are not the same
No NDE can be scientifically investigated as it is only a single person interpretation so there is no objective means of determining its claim
And all of science is physical because it is the study of observable phenomena and nothing else
There are a lot of fools that really believe that physical science is the panacea for all real knowledge
Unfortunately for these fools that is not the case
Everything in this universe move and change all the time
Physical science try his best to follow these changes and that is ok but that is not enough because not everything can be understood by this science
In the meantime please note that as the consciousness leave the body that is death so people who saw their body from above saw their dead body
You cant be alive without your consciousness
For atheists must be very very hard to digest the fact that life can come back in a lifeless body and life pop up once again
It would wreck a life time of beliefs
Science is not a panacea for anything but simply a methodology for understanding observable phenomena. Not everything can be
understood by it as that would be an absolute knowledge claim. Science is inductive not deductive so it cannot make such a claim
There is no absolutely no evidence that consciousness leaves the body after death. And anyone
who experiences an NDE is still alive and what they are apparently seeing is imaginary not real
You can be alive without consciousness and it happens all of the time and it is known as sleep
I have no problem accepting anything as long as there is evidence for it but I will not believe in anything
I used to have beliefs but no longer do. Only things that I either know or think are true and nothing else
A MIND IS LIKE A PARACHUTE : IT DOES NOT WORK UNLESS IT IS OPEN