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Hello.....I have a little problem
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RE: Hello.....I have a little problem
(September 8, 2011 at 7:27 pm)Shell B Wrote: Oh, yes, I forgot about the consistency of Christianity. I just keep getting caught up in all those confounded contradictions. Silly me.

Whoa wait a second! You have knowledge of the elusive Bible contradictions? We had a little challenge in the other thread for people to present these alleged contradictions and nobody could even present a Bible discrepancy much less an actual real logical contradiction (x and not x in the same relationship and at the same point in time). If you truly possess some knowledge about contradictions in Christianity that nobody else who claimed to possess actually did in the other thread I suggest you enlighten us all. Smile

Quote: Out of curiosity, how does "Don't waste your time trying to convert people." steal from your worldview?

It was actually the faint appeal to transcendental morality that you made in your statement that I was referring to. A standard of morality that transcends all humans is impossible in an atheistic universe but something atheists love to steal from Christianity.

Quote: Furthermore, what makes you think that anyone who has worldview with one particular sentiment has a monopoly on said sentiment?

It’s not important what I think; it’s important what logic discerns to be the case. Atheistic worldviews cannot give account for transcendent standards of morality or other transcendental universal abstract entities such as the laws of logic. They always become mere arbitrary conventions and thus lose all meaning in an atheistic worldview.

Quote: Let's be serious for a moment, Stat. You think what you think is the truth and are convinced my "worldview" (as if you have any knowledge of such a thing) is utterly incorrect, yet you have no idea what my worldview is.

I actually do have an idea (although I'd love for you to elaborate on what it is), I know it has to be atheistic, and there are only a handful of atheistic worldviews and I know that all of these worldviews have been demonstrated to fail when it comes to accounting for the reality of certain truths.

Quote: You continuously interject that you know the "truth," fail to prove and call something like Christianity "consistent." I hope that you realize how difficult that makes it to debate with you. I want to be able to converse with you, but how can I take you seriously? I'm being completely serious right now. Your arrogance, blind faith and interpretation of Christianity are huge obstacles. Fact: You interpret things to suit you and dismiss everything else. I'm sorry. It's just as close to the truth as this poor atheist can get. Debating with you is like debating with an intellectual chameleon with down's syndrome. That is not to say you are stupid, but that I believe you purposely ignore your own false tenor, so to speak, so that you don't have to suffer through actually scrutinizing your position or "worldview."

I appreciate your desire to converse with me, but if you expect me to give up my ultimate authorities and allow you to keep yours I just can’t do that. We can have a conversation where we both adhere to our ultimate standards if you’d like. I am afraid that is the only option because there is just simply no neutral ground to meet upon.
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