(September 8, 2011 at 8:21 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote:(September 8, 2011 at 7:46 pm)aleialoura Wrote: Have you ever been pregnant? Obviously not.
Nope, I am a guy. That’s irrelevant though, I am still allowed to address the issue.
Quote: If abortions were outlawed by society, do you honestly think that abortions would no longer occur?
What kind of logic is this? That’s like saying we shouldn’t keep murder illegal because murders still occur.
Quote: They would! It would be just another black market. It's main customers would most likely be young girls whose parents would have a conniption fit if they knew their lily white daughter had sinned in such a way.
This is just an appeal to emotion, it has no bearing on whether abortion should be legal or not. There is a black market for child sex trafficking today; that however does not mean I think we should therefore legalize it, apparently you would think that given your lines of reasoning here.
Quote: All that abstinence talk didn't work?! Shocking. They'd go and get abortions on someone's kitchen table with a coat hanger and the towel that was just used for drying dishes, and either die there, or months later from an excruciating infection, but hey, they deserve it right! Fucking baby killers.
More pure emotionalism. Nobody forces the girls to have abortions, if you can’t accept the possible consequences of sex, don’t have sex.
Quote: Why is it wrong for me to base my concepts of morality on dead comedians, but okay and super duper for you to base yours on dead men from the dark ages and men that may or may not have even existed?I don’t base mine on any men from the dark ages thank you.
Quote: Embryos are NOT babies.
Sounds like just your opinion to me, can you logically prove this?
Quote: They're extremely valuable and freezable goo. If your morals stand in the way of something so scientifically valuable to the living members of the human race, then your ignorance is beyond measure.
The Nazis thought the same thing about Jews; they were sub-human beings who presented a great scientific value to the advancement of the human race. It’s a shame to see such viewpoints are still held today.
1.) The logic is that by keeping it legal and regulated, it can be done by knowledgeable doctors in a sterile environment, thereby reducing the rate of mortality for the mothers while making infections considerably less frequent, all while not contributing to the rising rate of health care. There is a form of legal murder. It's called the death penalty. That's a different subject, but you brought it up. I'm actually not against it, just sayin'...
2.) Parents who shove Jesus/Allah down the throats of their children can be very judgmental. Instead of facing the shame of confronting their parents, many girls opt for abortion. It's easy to see why:
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=21841
http://pregnancy.lovetoknow.com/wiki/Pre...ir_Parents
Just a couple of examples.
3.) Because of awesome religious morals, many girls are not informed on how to have safe sex. These same religious morals do not, however, keep teens from doing it. It's a natural thing, it's going to happen. It's, once again, religion that's perverted it's acceptability. If someone's god gave a fuck about waiting until marriage, girls would magically have their first menstruation on their wedding night. L O G I C.
4.) Embryos are not babies because you can't freeze babies. I thought we went through this? Embryos are a collection of cells that without a human host, and the right conditions, will be nothing more than a collection of cells. Unless they find a way to grow babies in a petri dish, they will remain a collection of cells. You can purchase them all day long. Is it legal to purchase babies? Kinda. Christians do it all the time. Must be right!
5.) You just compared Nazi insanity to stem cell research. I'm done with ya!
Hope that was a sufficient response.
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