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Poll: Are theists in it for the truth, or for the swag?
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The truth.
3.33%
1 3.33%
The swag.
53.33%
16 53.33%
It's complicated.
16.67%
5 16.67%
Other
6.67%
2 6.67%
Fuck. Yet another poll.
20.00%
6 20.00%
Total 30 vote(s) 100%
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Truth or swag?
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RE: Truth or swag?
Emjay, God is a being worthy of worship. Contrary to what Atheist say, he is not non-falsifiable, but there is many reasons to reject a version of God.

And yes the world could be in a state where a Being worthy of worship, is impossible to exist in that world.

And more volatile than that, and more falsifiable, are holy books. If there is no reasons in them to even think them to be from God, they are definitely not from God.

And book that is completely the seal of such books, all of it has to be protected and has to not only sheer perfection, but a level that is within our grasp to appreciate that it's a miracle yet constantly without end unraveling is it's mysterious wonders.

There can't be any book like it among humans, whether Jinn or humans combine to bring about books like it, if they do, it would be proven wrong.

And it's explanation to why the world is in this state as is, has to be a good explanation. I use to be a Deist, and the problem of evil impacted me a lot. I could not explain suffering really and had the funniest explanations to them.

But those explanations had in me a Compassionate God that punishes no oppressors, because, I wanted to be against the notion of hell in Abrahamic faiths, and at the same time, I went out to explain the world of suffering as is, and really Deism fails in so many respects, God doing nothing in this fallen world, never trying to restore it to justice... not doing anything through out history....

Deism fails - if Deism is true, it's impossible the Creator be worthy of worship in my view for example. Yes, people can convince themselves as I did, but with rational thought, God has to be active in the world, and is the super power, he and his forces, on earth... though people perceive it not in the past till they are destroyed by that which they mocked.
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Messages In This Thread
Truth or swag? - by Angrboda - May 29, 2018 at 10:26 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Crossless2.0 - May 29, 2018 at 10:50 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 10:55 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by drfuzzy - May 29, 2018 at 10:59 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 11:00 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Wyrd of Gawd - May 29, 2018 at 5:49 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 7:44 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Joods - May 30, 2018 at 8:31 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by robvalue - May 29, 2018 at 12:21 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Paraselene - May 29, 2018 at 12:26 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Succubus - May 29, 2018 at 2:27 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Minimalist - May 29, 2018 at 12:30 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 12:43 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Minimalist - May 29, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by brewer - May 29, 2018 at 1:24 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 1:29 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by brewer - May 29, 2018 at 1:44 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 29, 2018 at 1:51 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by LastPoet - May 29, 2018 at 1:39 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Catholic_Lady - May 29, 2018 at 2:36 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by vulcanlogician - May 29, 2018 at 5:45 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Edwardo Piet - May 29, 2018 at 4:25 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by chimp3 - May 29, 2018 at 7:45 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by chimp3 - May 29, 2018 at 7:58 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Succubus - May 31, 2018 at 8:23 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by vulcanlogician - May 29, 2018 at 7:52 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by ignoramus - May 29, 2018 at 8:33 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Godscreated - May 29, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by KittyAnn - May 30, 2018 at 6:56 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Drich - May 30, 2018 at 9:10 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by WinterHold - May 30, 2018 at 12:40 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 3:16 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by emjay - May 30, 2018 at 4:24 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by Godscreated - May 31, 2018 at 1:36 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by emjay - May 31, 2018 at 5:29 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Godscreated - May 31, 2018 at 11:35 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Edwardo Piet - June 1, 2018 at 7:52 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Godscreated - June 2, 2018 at 12:29 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Edwardo Piet - June 2, 2018 at 9:27 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Godscreated - June 4, 2018 at 1:54 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Industrial Atheist - May 30, 2018 at 4:28 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 4:33 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by emjay - May 30, 2018 at 4:38 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 4:42 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by emjay - May 30, 2018 at 4:54 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 4:56 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by emjay - May 30, 2018 at 5:03 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by emjay - May 30, 2018 at 5:23 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2018 at 5:14 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 5:17 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2018 at 5:20 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 5:21 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2018 at 5:22 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 5:31 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2018 at 5:39 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by MysticKnight - May 30, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Grand Nudger - May 30, 2018 at 5:53 pm
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2018 at 1:37 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Paraselene - May 31, 2018 at 1:38 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2018 at 1:43 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by ignoramus - May 31, 2018 at 5:56 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by The Grand Nudger - May 31, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by ignoramus - June 1, 2018 at 6:47 am
RE: Truth or swag? - by Whateverist - June 4, 2018 at 3:08 am

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