(September 10, 2011 at 9:58 am)Rhythm Wrote: Look, Crux, you assume that our very humanity isn't the source of our morality, that without a god to hand us the rules we'd just shuffle about like animals raping and beating and killing each other indiscriminately. This is simply not the case. Our ever developing concepts of morality predate your fairy tale by an unbelievably wide margin. Societies cannot be built, or survive with a concept of morality that allows the unrestricted predation of it's members, by it's members. Any such society would not survive to pass it's concepts of morality on through the ages. Simply put, if you eat your children no one lives to tell the tale.
You don't seem to be getting the question? why can't anybody answer the question in the OP? It has noting to do with what I believe or the Bible or "sky wizards" its a simple question relating purely to an atheistic worldview, how does one atheist persuade another atheist that their view of morality is "wrong"?