The Lie Known as "Salvation"

[vulcanlogician]

Whateverist: you know that I love you and I am not alone! But please! God is NOT nature and, nature is NOT God!--never has been and, never will be! Yet, nature reflects God!

As Paul said: "You will know God by the things that He has made!"

I'm glad you're back from Margaritaville, man! We were lost without you.

The issue I take with your quotation of Paul here is that (assuming God exists) his followers seem to ignore Paul's advice--ironically focusing to much on Paul's letters whilst ignoring this little tidbit of wisdom embedded in the letters themselves.

I think Khem hits the nail on the head when he says "magic book worshippers." I've talked to tons of Christians (online and in RL) and, aside from a few exceptions, most of them worship a book and are utterly clueless about how one might know God outside it.